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  • factsarenice
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    #51
    ****** comment, promoter or not, it's an insult to fans.

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    • factsarenice
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      #52
      Fury fought a one dimensional Wilder and stunk one out...on PED's...against an under prepared Wlad Klitschko.

      Ali fought a massive list of Hall of Fame greats.

      I find this statements like Arum's deeply insulting.
      Last edited by factsarenice; 05-04-2020, 09:30 AM. Reason: spelling

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      • JakeTheBoxer
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        #53
        Originally posted by Fire4231
        Ali would murder Fury or anyone else in this era. Ali was a 15 Round Heavyweight monster with the speed and quickness of a welterweight. Stop already Arum...
        Finally somebody who actually watched Ali`s fights.

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        • Silver Spear
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          #54
          What rules are we using for this hypothetical? Today's boxing has way too much politics. If Ali fought today he would probably Floyd in terms of boxing management. He would be the A side and would dictate ring size, gloves, judges etc. He would also be able to benefit from today's science and nutrition and would no doubt be a better version. He would have better, smarter trainers who would have decades of boxing to analyze to come up with better game plans.

          Fury has the advantage of being bigger and stronger and to have been born in today's day. If you put today's Fury back in Ali's time, I think Fury would destroy every boxer back then. Nobody had the size to match up to Fury. Fury is too crafty and dirty to lose. Ali would have nowhere to run and with Fury's reach he would not be able to avoid his size for 15 rounds.

          Ali was great for his time but today's athletes just have too much access to things that the past athletes did not.

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          • MulaKO
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            #55
            The Bobfather is the best
            In these pandemic times , a good laugh was needed and deserved
            The Bobfather does just that , brings the joy of laughter
            I don’t see Hearn or Al doing the same

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            • Silver Spear
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              #56
              Originally posted by factsarenice
              ****** comment, promoter or not, it's an insult to fans.
              What part of his comment was ****** exactly? What did you find insulting? What he actually said versus what you think he said may be two different things. You read Arum thinks Ali would struggle against Fury. You interpreted it as "Arum thinks Fury would smash Ali and Ali would have no chance at winning".

              .............

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              • CubanGuyNYC
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                #57
                Originally posted by Squared.Circle
                People need to remember, Ali isn’t the GOAT because he’s the most skilled and formidable boxer of all time; it’s what he did both inside and outside of the ring. Inside the ring, Fury rinses him.
                Ali was possibly the greatest heavyweight of all time (it’s between him and Louis), for the reasons you stated. To be specific, he had incredible ability, charisma, ring smarts and indomitable will. If he and Fury were comparable in size, I’d say Ali all day. But they’re not. Fury has many of his own talents, coupled with a huge frame. Given Ali’s style, and his relatively small stature, I just can’t see him beating this modern giant. Size is far from everything, but when you combine it with other factors, it can be a true advantage.

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                • Hooded Terror
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                  #58
                  Ali would come in weighing somewhere between 210 and 215lbs. He'd be smart enough AND dialed-in enough to know that over the course of the build-up that he wasn't able to crawl into Fury's head and that in fact he had a fight on his hands. Conversely, Fury would soon learn in the bout that he was unable to get into Ali's head.

                  It would be a tactical bout predicated on timing and reflexes.

                  I see the initial rounds as a feeling out period with Ali needing time to adjust his game, his timing, on the longer, taller and complicated Fury. Ali's superior foot speed, dialed-in with his ring generalship, ability to improvise and ring IQ would see to a closer than expected but clear unanimous decision.

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                  • jbpanama
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                    Ali was possibly the greatest heavyweight of all time (it’s between him and Louis), for the reasons you stated. To be specific, he had incredible ability, charisma, ring smarts and indomitable will. If he and Fury were comparable in size, I’d say Ali all day. But they’re not. Fury has many of his own talents, coupled with a huge frame. Given Ali’s style, and his relatively small stature, I just can’t see him beating this modern giant. Size is far from everything, but when you combine it with other factors, it can be a true advantage.
                    Good Take,

                    Arum knows what Many Don't....


                    The Gypsy King...Competes well in any era...

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                    • CubanGuyNYC
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by jbpanama
                      Good Take,

                      Arum knows what Many Don't....


                      The Gypsy King...Competes well in any era...
                      Has to. He’s a huge athlete with a very unusual combination of speed and mobility. It’s partly what made Ali special in his time. I’m a big believer in the greats of the past, but I don’t overlook the fact that many modern fighters are/were as good or sometimes better.

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