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    #91
    Originally posted by Fire4231
    Lol...Yeah like he did Steve Cunningham?
    Fury had no respect for Cunningham and got caught square, and he ended up knocking him spark out anyway.

    Fury is now a far superior fighter to then, and he wouldn't mess around against Ali, he would be all business.

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      #92
      Originally posted by TJ highway
      Boy you are an Einstein!
      First one's free of charge..��
      Last edited by Bunch Pag; 05-05-2020, 01:18 AM.

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        #93
        Originally posted by Bunch Pag
        First one's free of charge..��
        Send me a first class ticket to the resurrection.

        LOL! Silly guys. Make believe world.

        Whats next Fury vs John L. Sullivan? "Jim" Corbett? "Jack" Johnson?

        Or maybe Jack Dempsey, Max Schmeling or Gene Tunney?

        Last edited by TJ highway; 05-05-2020, 02:13 AM.

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          #94
          Originally posted by TJ highway
          Send me a first class ticket to the resurrection.
          Noted..ticket 1 of 1, Mr Highway😂

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            #95
            Originally posted by Fire4231
            Lol...Yeah like he did Steve Cunningham?
            He played with no threat Cunningham. Got dropped because he had too little respect for him. Actually showed zero respect for Cunningham. Arrogance always gets rebuked. Fury would give Ali far more respect.

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              #96
              Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
              No prob. I’d be interested in knowing what you think. I’m a big believer in Tyson’s prime years, but I also think he’s overrated by the vast majority. Watching that Ribalta fight only convinces me further. Sure, Mike won without too much trouble, but that was against a tall but lanky journeyman. What about a world class big man? And, by the way, in a 2014 interview, where Tyson ranked his best opponents in various categories, Mike rated Ribalta as having the best chin and as being the strongest he fought.
              I watched the whole fight and it was surprising to see a tall, thin guy with a long reach using his height against a stocky, powerful opponent in a way that was kind of counter-intuitive. You would expect the taller, long armed guy to try and maintain distance against a short armed slugger, but instead, Ribalta focused on trying to catch Mike coming in, then tie him up and tire him out by draping his lanky body over Mike's neck and shoulders whenever he got close.

              Ribalta's tactics reminded me a lot of how Wlad fought against Povetkin, and like Wlad, Ribalta was working to a game-plan. But unlike Wlad with Povetkin, Ribalta didn't have any weight advantage over Mike, he was actually a couple of pounds lighter, so I was surprised at how well those tactics worked. Somebody in Ribalta's camp really knew their boxing!

              That fight highlighted Mike's biggest weakness .. he tended to slow down and become a little predictable after 4 or 5 rounds, and you could hear from the translation of what was being said in Ribalta's corner that they anticipated that happening and hoped to take advantage of it in the second half of the fight.

              They definitely came to win, not just survive. And like you said, if Ribalta had been world class, rather than a journeyman, and big, rather than just tall, they might have pulled it off.

              That was an interesting fight. Thanks again for recommending it to me.
              Last edited by kafkod; 05-05-2020, 03:37 PM.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Fire4231
                Lol...Yeah like he did Steve Cunningham?
                Fury to flatten Ali in 7 rounds? Probably not, but he might have been able to wear him down enough to stop him late. The longer a fight goes, the more of an advantage the bigger man has.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by kafkod
                  I watched the whole fight and it was surprising to see a tall, thin guy with a long reach using his height against a stocky, powerful opponent in a way that was kind of counter-intuitive. You would expect the taller, long armed guy to try and maintain distance against a short armed slugger, but instead, Ribalta focused on trying to catch Mike coming in, then tie him up and tire him out by draping his lanky body over Mike's neck and shoulders whenever he got close.

                  Ribalta's tactics reminded me a lot of how Wlad fought against Povetkin, and like Wlad, Ribalta was working to a game-plan. But unlike Wlad with Povetkin, Ribalta didn't have any weight advantage over Mike, he was actually a couple of pounds lighter, so I was surprised at how well those tactics worked. Somebody in Ribalta's camp really knew their boxing!

                  That fight highlighted Mike's biggest weakness .. he tended to slow down and become a little predictable after 4 or 5 rounds, and you could hear from the translation of what was being said in Ribalta's corner that they anticipated that happening and hoped to take advantage of it in the second half of the fight.

                  They definitely came to win, not just survive. And like you said, if Ribalta had been world class, rather than a journeyman, and big, rather than just tall, they might have pulled it off.

                  That was an interesting fight. Thanks again for recommending it to me.
                  You’re welcome. Glad you enjoyed it.

                  Ribalta’s team said they watched one of Tyson’s earlier fights. I believe it was James Tillis. That’s apparently where they hatched the idea of tying Mike up for the first few rounds, then opening up a bit more. It obviously would’ve worked better if the fighter was better. Lol But Jose fought a very good fight nonetheless, considering that he was outmatched. As skinny as Ribalta was, Tyson has said he was his strongest opponent.

                  Fairly entertaining fight, especially from a critical standpoint. Although Lennox Lewis fought a past-prime Tyson, one has to believe he had a good chance versus a peak version — Vitali Klitschko and Tyson Fury as well. I’d actually favor Fury.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Akutalee
                    Just so surprise with many BS comments... Fury couldn't bully Otto wallin.... Just because he beat wilder doesn't mean is superb.... we all know wilder is one tricky pony... Rate him when he fight someone who can take it to him and see if he can fight inside like he did with wilder
                    Wallin is a nearly 6”6 southpaw who fights going forward using body work ,Ali is the entire opposite. Ali himself struggled with a cruiser weight southpaw ,if you don’t know that go watch the Karl Mildenberger fight known to cut and not carry much power ,he even topples Ali over with a body punch somewhere late in the fight .


                    You can’t negate other fights and then use them as proof when the opposite can be said about Ali .

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by denium
                      Fury had no respect for Cunningham and got caught square, and he ended up knocking him spark out anyway.

                      Fury is now a far superior fighter to then, and he wouldn't mess around against Ali, he would be all business.
                      Fury was also allowed to cheat in that fight and cuffed Cunningham behind the head while punching. A move as illegal as hand wraps.

                      Ali was street smart and tough as nails. He would not have allowed it and would have got dirtier on Fury. Ali won fights when the opponent sabotaged his eyesight. They are not these new politically correct guys allowing people to be dirty as the sins while they stay on the straight and narrow.

                      Funny how half you guys didn’t even like Fury, said Wilder was a bum. Yet after beating the so called Bum with illegal aid, now you got him beating the greatest of all time GTFOH.

                      Fury couldn’t beat Forman in his hay day let alone a Prime Ali. Address the madness.

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