What did Canelo "learn" from the Mayweather schooling?

[Roadblock]

His defense to offense and offense to defense has dramatically improved. Before Id always thought Canelo never transitioned well but hes gotten 10xs better at mixing up his game.

I mean, I dont think Canelo could ever beat Floyd but Canelo hasnt lost since so I guess you can say hes learned not to lose.

He learned the importance of defense, he learned the importance of controlling distance, he learned about traps, he learned from the pressure that goes along with such a massive fight.

Canelo took a lot away from that fight, it educated him more than fans can understand, you watch the praise Canelo gives Mayweather after he is retired, he is active now and they dont like propping up a guy that beat them it will come later.

At the time Floyd was the only WW in the world that would have beat Canelo at 152. He didnt gas and he was sharp all 12 rounds no other 147 fighter at the time would have beat Canelo.

When Floyd boxes like this they cant touch him, JMM Canelo Manny, 3 huge names and Floyd gave all 3 a classic boxing lesson.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Head movement, pull counters, and catch and shoots.

Class was in session that night.

Seeing a lot of comments that people actually believe a boxer copies or mimics another style is ridiculous. If that was so intuitive then it means P4P fighters would be boosting or changing their opponents’ game significantly.

I think Boxing Legends or Motivate Media recently did a Canelo video showing his techniques since at 15, showing rope a dope and pulls, way earlier back.

We all hit the gym, when we spar, I like to do things I see. That’s goes for a lot of sports, but the reality is that some techniques and skills are limited physically, or moreso the fight or flight business isn’t as easy as it seems in a real fight. It such confidence existed we’d see amazing things from boxers out of the ordinary.

Post Floyd was a counterattacker, so most of his shots relied or baited other opponents. So I’d say yes, ultra elites hit a certain level where they can be conservative with compubox and only time opponents when needed but the defense still gotta be sharp. Who knows, there may be a time where Canelo is so defensively sound and conservative as was Post Floyd that fans might start hating the style... it’s quite possible, but that’s how winning is done, and Canelo already played his part.

I’ll admit what many other said, Canelo should not have boxed Floyd. It was counterpuncher vs counterpuncher, and the lighter guy was just faster, that when Canelo landed, Floyd landed back dismissing Canelo’s point. That is genius fighting within the point system.

Canelo always says that he would never let him be on such B side stipulations whenever reporters ask him about Floyd. So perhaps there were some things in the contracts we don’t know about, and yes, as others stated, he learned the A side bidness.

Reynoso’s pushes their luck thinking they had a strategy. Best unorthodox mode to beat Floyd was to do Robert Garcia’s plan to just brawl awkwardly with looping shots facing forward like Andre Ward. Do that to Floyd on the ropes and you can catch him. Looks novice but it works. If Canelo had done that Floyd would be fleeing more because he wouldn’t have planned for that style. I also think Haymon and Floyd milked their contract for two Chino fights to make easy PPV bucks, literally controlling the fight and causing controversy. That’s how masterful Floyd is with defense.

But seeing as how Canelo fights style wise he doesn’t mimic any style of Floyd. Canelo has his own style and shot selection which is why it’s entertaining to see Caneo’s ring IQ.

If people want realistic imitation of Floyd watch Broner, Berto or Yarde. I think much of Broner’s downfall being P4P is that he isn’t himself. Fighters need to fight like themselves. Seeing how Canelo thinks of Ali so high, it’s not surprise he likes Rope a Dope every once in a while.

[Vodkaholic]

When non-advanced testing for Floyd because he’s scared of needles, PAC diehards, have to bump in because catchweight king Manny (no VaDA Thurman) isn’t in the spotlight.

Actually gingerboy is the catchweight king lmfao

[Thuglife Nelo]

Actually gingerboy is the catchweight king lmfao

Always easy to spot the Pac-Euro crews on the forum.

What catchweights? Catchweights are fighters KNOWN from different classes.

Lara, Kirkland, Angulo was “Caneloweight” with fighters having fought above 155 before Canelo. Is that to say Canelo was smaller than them and he should’ve fought Lara, Kirkland, Angulo at 160?

Cotto stipulated 155. The only known catchweight that Canelo did was for Khan, even though Khan was taller and came in with the body mass to compete as Brook did for GGG at 160. Would Chavez Jr. have mattered? Why satisfy Chavez Jr.? Industry lost respect for that guy in almost any scenario...

Canelo easily has standards to compare to fights that diminish any theory of an advantage. Would fighting Chavez Jr. at the full 168 made a difference if Jacobs did his thing? Fighters have to be careful how much weight is consistently added or else they won’t be able to hit the lowest, like in the case of 160 for Canelo. For Fielding and Chavez Jr., Canelo wasn’t drained at all, he was filled. It proves that Canelo would still compete, drain like others, like GGG to WANT to hit 160 on the scale.

Pacquiao is a completely different story. PAC didn’t do VADA for Thurman. Only some posters feel to acknowledge it.

[TheMyspaceDayz]

What Canelo learned is that in order to win that type of fight, you need to have the judges on your side.

[pasawayako]

When non-advanced testing for Floyd because he’s scared of needles, PAC diehards, have to bump in because catchweight king Manny (no VaDA Thurman) isn’t in the spotlight.

hahahaha. why so butthurt with the truth? canelo is a certified PED cheater and has always given a gift wins just like floyd while on pac u only acuse him because he something extra ordinary in the ring that no boxer in the past to present could come close to achieved.

[ShoulderRoll]

Seeing a lot of comments that people actually believe a boxer copies or mimics another style is ridiculous. If that was so intuitive then it means P4P fighters would be boosting or changing their opponents’ game significantly.

I think Boxing Legends or Motivate Media recently did a Canelo video showing his techniques since at 15, showing rope a dope and pulls, way earlier back.

We all hit the gym, when we spar, I like to do things I see. That’s goes for a lot of sports, but the reality is that some techniques and skills are limited physically, or moreso the fight or flight business isn’t as easy as it seems in a real fight. It such confidence existed we’d see amazing things from boxers out of the ordinary.

Post Floyd was a counterattacker, so most of his shots relied or baited other opponents. So I’d say yes, ultra elites hit a certain level where they can be conservative with compubox and only time opponents when needed but the defense still gotta be sharp. Who knows, there may be a time where Canelo is so defensively sound and conservative as was Post Floyd that fans might start hating the style... it’s quite possible, but that’s how winning is done, and Canelo already played his part.

I’ll admit what many other said, Canelo should not have boxed Floyd. It was counterpuncher vs counterpuncher, and the lighter guy was just faster, that when Canelo landed, Floyd landed back dismissing Canelo’s point. That is genius fighting within the point system.

Canelo always says that he would never let him be on such B side stipulations whenever reporters ask him about Floyd. So perhaps there were some things in the contracts we don’t know about, and yes, as others stated, he learned the A side bidness.

Reynoso’s pushes their luck thinking they had a strategy. Best unorthodox mode to beat Floyd was to do Robert Garcia’s plan to just brawl awkwardly with looping shots facing forward like Andre Ward. Do that to Floyd on the ropes and you can catch him. Looks novice but it works. If Canelo had done that Floyd would be fleeing more because he wouldn’t have planned for that style. I also think Haymon and Floyd milked their contract for two Chino fights to make easy PPV bucks, literally controlling the fight and causing controversy. That’s how masterful Floyd is with defense.

But seeing as how Canelo fights style wise he doesn’t mimic any style of Floyd. Canelo has his own style and shot selection which is why it’s entertaining to see Caneo’s ring IQ.

If people want realistic imitation of Floyd watch Broner, Berto or Yarde. I think much of Broner’s downfall being P4P is that he isn’t himself. Fighters need to fight like themselves. Seeing how Canelo thinks of Ali so high, it’s not surprise he likes Rope a Dope every once in a while.

Here's Floyd doing a pull, countering with a right hand, then rolling under a left hook.



Here's Canelo doing a pull, countering with a right uppercut, then rolling under a left hook. The Floyd influence is obvious.

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[Thuglife Nelo]

Here's Floyd doing a pull, countering with a right hand, then rolling under a left hook.



Here's Canelo doing a pull, countering with a right uppercut, then rolling under a left hook. The Floyd influence is obvious.

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Nope. Like I said, Motivate Media or Boxing Legends made a video on Canelo’s style since a teen. He’s always done pull counters. Pull counters are a choice to be in range, not something you mimic or learn. It’s basic. Pocket defense like Whitaker is something else. That’s a craft based on seeing movement from your opponents legs.

Canelo has been doing pull uppercuts and Floyd’s style before the Floyd fight happened.

[Thuglife Nelo]

hahahaha. why so butthurt with the truth? canelo is a certified PED cheater and has always given a gift wins just like floyd while on pac u only acuse him because he something extra ordinary in the ring that no boxer in the past to present could come close to achieved.

Just rambling. Everyone in industry knows PAC refused to do testing with Floyd. How is it a coincidence that the boxing industry forced protocol to do advanced drug testing after PAC refused with Mayweather? It is was that fight everyone wanted and Floyd created the standard. Unless Canelo stops to do VADa testing like PAC vs Thurman then I’d surrender my case.

There’s nothing extra ordinary when not doing VADA or having the boxing world like ESPN ask PAC directly, “will you not do 15 days cutoff?” And PAC responds, “it inhibits training.” That’s Pac’s PR team coaching what to say in real-time... as if PAC knows what “inhibits” means so casually... lol “not good to draw blood towards the fight because it inhibits training.”

You seriously just can’t brush that off unless you’re a dummy. Such awkward statements forced boxing to do advanced testing because PAC’s dumbass said that. Fighters today do 120 days pre out testing yet Pac said no to 15 days because it “inhibits training.” FFs mate you can’t make that stuff up.

Even in the Canelo case he did VADA and had a meat contamination case 80 days away. And VADA has already exempt guys like Francisco Vargas on Meat contamination at 45 days. Do the math! If Canelo were insecure about testing all he would have to do is still do VADa and start it closer to the fight like GGG vs Lemieux at 27 days to the fight!

[Thuglife Nelo]

Here's Floyd doing a pull, countering with a right

Here you go bro. It was this channel. Canelo been doing his own defensive slips in early days. The examples you showed are nothing new if you saw the Trout fight. You know this.

This is the video here. Timestamped too.