Does Manny Pacquiao have a claim to be a Top 3 ATG?

[hugh grant]

Top 3 no way, not with 7 losses, KO loses, CWs paper titles and ped allegations etc .


Atg fighter no doubt and second best of this generation but I can think of a quite a few greats in history from 130 to 154 that tear him up, top 3 ATG doesn't lose the fights that he lost.

Your obvious a Floyd fan who would prefer Pac not to be the Goat, rather than don't think it.

Nothing you say is a barrier to Pac being goat.
Your the type of critic who says things along the lines of it don't matter if Pac wins title at 50 years old, or wins a heavyweight title and beats spence and crawfird, there is nothing Pac can do to make up for his losses to Torecampo and Floyd type logic. Either that or he has to beat spence and Crawford and maybe beat nel o at middleweight also to be best of era type statements?

You talk from heart and not head. Do yourself a favour and sit down.
I know there are a lot of people walking about out there who think Pac is the GOAT. Like I said it doesn't mean to say he is though. Even if critics like you think Pac is the GOAT it don't make it so too.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

1. Only 4-decade world champion in history (1990s-2020s)
2. Only 8 division world champion in history including 4 of the original divisions
3. Lineal championship in 5 weight classes

More divisions and longevity than anyone else.

Does he have a claim to be a Top 3 Boxer of all time?

If not, list your top 3.

He’s not in my personal top 3 but you could definitely make a reasonable argument that he should be.

As you’ve listed, he has many unique accomplishments.

Forgot to put my 3 in...

1. Robinson
2. Armstrong
3. Ali

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Gayweather fan spotted.

Not even top 3 of the 2000's? Kill yourself.

“Not top 3 of the 00’s” Lol...😂

That’s just blatantly hating right there.

[pasawayako]

He is easily top a 1 ATG but since he's not an american then he will just probably be in top 3 ATG.

[pasawayako]

Pac resume speaks for itself and even a diehard floyd lover nax kellerman thinks that pac is the greatest lb4lb boxer of all time.

[boliodogs]

1. Only 4-decade world champion in history (1990s-2020s)
2. Only 8 division world champion in history including 4 of the original divisions
3. Lineal championship in 5 weight classes

More divisions and longevity than anyone else.

Does he have a claim to be a Top 3 Boxer of all time?

If not, list your top 3.

This all time great stuff is just opinion and not provable fact. If you think he is the third best boxer in history then put him there and nobody can prove you wrong. I don't think he is top or even top 10 but he is a great amazing fighter. There have been many other great amazing fighters in the long history of boxing. He had an advantage of starting very young and growing into heavier weight classes. A great boxer who started at a given weight and never grew larger could not win titles in so many different weights. Hagler for instance was a full sized middleweight when he turned pro at 19 and never grew bigger. That doesn't make him less great. Great as he was Pacquiao had some losses including KO losses and he was young for some of those losses.

[CodeBreaker]

Obviously yes

[GhostofDempsey]

I'm a Pac fan, but top three, I can't see it. I have him in my top 20, but I can't make the argument for top three.

[elfag]

Champion in 4 decades is a long time, I dont think it will be broken in a while. You have to have started very young, retired very old on top and even time the decades right.

I looked up a few fighters to compare the time between first title won and last title defense. There could be asterisks for each sure but it gives a general idea:


21 years - Pac
19 years - Hearns
17 years - Floyd
18 years - Hopkins
24 years - Foreman (lineal title)


Some guys with longevity like holyfield and duran were only 14 and 10 years respectively because they didnt have a major title in their late years.

[BM dnobagaV]

I would put him around 4-5. Interchangeable with Floyd, actually.

Ali, SRR, Duran/SRL are probably the three I put in front of the pair.