Does Manny Pacquiao have a claim to be a Top 3 ATG?

[BodyBagz]

Too many soft touches.

[HewJohnson]

pac is a top 3 atg on achievements alone. he is also the only 4x welterweight champ in history and oldest welterweight champ in history.

the amount of achievements and records broken is insane. will never be replicated ever again.

Damn so true.
Only 8 division champ.

Only champion to hold belts in 4 different decades.

Oldest WW champ in history.

Will never be done again.
Ever. Crazy insane records.
And he’s still going!

[aboutfkntime]

pac is a top 3 atg on achievements alone. he is also the only 4x welterweight champ in history and oldest welterweight champ in history.

the amount of achievements and records broken is insane. will never be replicated ever again.

shut up you muppet... none of that shlt is genuine criteria for greatness

WHO did you beat... with consideration given to when/how

[El_Mero]

Top 5/10 for sure. Top 3 is a tough one

[aboutfkntime]

Damn so true.
Only 8 division champ.

Only champion to hold belts in 4 different decades.

Oldest WW champ in history.

Will never be done again.
Ever. Crazy insane records.
And he’s still going!

you clowns are fkn morons !!

NONE of that shlt... is criteria for greatness

stop spraying perfume on a turd... and calling it great

if there were 7 welterweight titles available back in the day... like there is now... you have NO IDEA how many GREAT fighters from the past would have picked up titles along the way...

stop using wankery from the current era to blow smoke up your guys ass

lucky... that there is only one criteria for greatness
lucky... that it works across ALL era's
lucky... that it removes all of the fake bullshlt along he way

WHO did you beat... with consideration given to when/how

nothing else matters... just names

nameless achievements, like the ones you mentioned... are completely worthless... and often do not translate across era's... back in the day, there was only 8 divisions... and *******jack-boxes did not contain world titles

Willie Pep only ever fought in 1 division... and he is greater than Pac

[HewJohnson]

you clowns are fkn morons !!

NONE of that shlt... is criteria for greatness

stop spraying perfume on a turd... and calling it great

if there were 7 welterweight titles available back in the day... like there is now... you have NO IDEA how many GREAT fighters from the past would have picked up titles along the way...

stop using wankery from the current era to blow smoke up your guys ass

lucky... that there is only one criteria for greatness
lucky... that it works across ALL era's
lucky... that it removes all of the fake bullshlt along he way

WHO did you beat... with consideration given to when/how

nothing else matters... just names

nameless achievements, like the ones you mentioned... are completely worthless... and often do not translate across era's... back in the day, there was only 8 divisions... and *******jack-boxes did not contain world titles

Willie Pep only ever fought in 1 division... and he is greater than Pac

Excuse me, are you still trolling round these here parts?

[aboutfkntime]

a lot of fans do not know the difference between ATG and P4P

ATG = resume ONLY... nothing else matters

Pac is NOT top 10 ATG... don't be fkn ridiculous

P4P is different, it is completely hypothetical... which is why it cannot be taken seriously

P4P is personal, everyone's list will be different depending on what you see... you can have your P4P list however you like, just don't tell me I need to change mine

if you change P4P criteria from style/skills (style/skills/form, if talking about current P4P)... to 'resume'... and it becomes ATG

ATG is not debatable... because you can simply check the record books, and do some research on the era in question... P4P is debatable, but my list would be very similar with maybe some slight adjustments... because the guys who are on top of the ATG list are cold-blooded killers who EARNED their rep and have the resume to prove it

[Fists_of_Fury]

You can certainly argue that he is. But always make sure to rank Floyd above him.

[aboutfkntime]

if you rank Pac ahead of guys like Robinson Ali Pep Armstrong Duran Moore Greb Tunney... you need a kick in the vaglna

Pac is not top 10... that is crazy

is Pac better than my boy Carpentier, who is not top 10 lol... ?

fought everyone from middleweight to heavyweight, beating some baaaaad boys along the way... no ducking random blood tests during his prime... no 'manny-weight' to keep his opponents in trim... I dunno man

[aboutfkntime]

Excuse me, are you still trolling round these here parts?

FACT: if there were 7 welterweight titles available back in the day... like there is now... you have NO IDEA how many GREAT fighters from the past would have picked up titles along the way...

so stop using wankery from the current era to blow smoke up your guys ass

it is only possible to compare across era's using identical criteria

WHO did you beat... with consideration given to when/how

which is the only criteria that historians use... they do not give a damn about espy's and twitter followers lol

they will also consider losses, but to a lesser degree