Does Manny Pacquiao have a claim to be a Top 3 ATG?

[Michael1437]

I think he does, coming from 108 lbs to becoming a world champion at 154, dude has done things that I didn't think were possible and still fighting the top of the WW division is absolutely crazy.

[Goldie]

one of the only fights of Manny's that I've watched in total was vs Jeff Horn

How can I talk boxing with someone who doesn’t even know what they’re talking about? Why are you even speaking on pacquiao’s tank on an all time list when you admit to not even seeing his fights? You shouldn’t even be offering your opinion here because it’s unqualified.

I think he does, coming from 108 lbs to becoming a world champion at 154, dude has done things that I didn't think were possible and still fighting the top of the WW division is absolutely crazy

Tbis is why the whole “8 division champ.....” hype means little to nothing to me. You’re giving him credit for being a champ at 54 on the strength of beating that piece of sht margarita in a 150lb catch weight fight for a vacant title that he didn’t even bother defending. This thread is a joke.

[Boxing_1013]

How can I talk boxing with someone who doesn’t even know what they’re talking about? Why are you even speaking on pacquiao’s tank on an all time list when you admit to not even seeing his fights? You shouldn’t even be offering your opinion here because it’s unqualified.

Tbis is why the whole “8 division champ.....” hype means little to nothing to me. You’re giving him credit for being a champ at 54 on the strength of beating that piece of sht margarita in a 150lb catch weight fight for a vacant title that he didn’t even bother defending. This thread is a joke.

I've watched parts or all of most of his fights (when I said watched earlier, I really meant watched and scored) over the past decade...probably seen film on him in about 20 fights...that's a good number and imho enough to have an opinion on his level and standing as a fighter...he was exciting but never my favorite guy so I was never too invested in watching all of his fights and scoring them...similar with Floyd.

[QueensburyRules]

Don't forget that Henry Armstrong also got robbed of a title at 160. Imagine, a four weight world champion in the era of only one champ per division when there were only 8 divisions total. That is what you call great.

- -Henry great enough without U making up porkies.

He never fought for the 160 title. Blithering!

You're welcome...

[QueensburyRules]

Foreman actually beat the champ for the title. Margo and Pac fought for a title that neither earned the shot. It was a circus fight, popularity contest. Nice try though

- -WBC sanctioned vacant title.

The beating of Marg and the body shots Manny took was no popularity contest.

[Skip Bayless]

no way. wasn't the best of his generation so can't rank him that high.

[JK1700]

What are you judging it on? Popularity? Legacy? Longevity? If you are saying “legacy” he’s definitely up there but he’s still outside the Top 5 to me. Guys like SRR, TBE, Ali have to be above him. Then if you’re talking skill wise there’s a lot more guys above him including several guys from the same era.

[hugh grant]

Pac is a serious contender for GOAT. DLH said of all the people he fought Pac was the best overall.
Plus you add that to pacs resume, achievements then Pac has a case and can't be dismissed

[STREET CLEANER]

- -WBC sanctioned vacant title.

The beating of Marg and the body shots Manny took was no popularity contest.

So Manny and Margo were in a collision course at 154, got it.

[Divine Hammer]

pac is a top 3 atg on achievements alone. he is also the only 4x welterweight champ in history and oldest welterweight champ in history.

the amount of achievements and records broken is insane. will never be replicated ever again.