Who's the best HW Wilder could beat?

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  • Rusty Tromboni
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    #31
    Originally posted by VG_Addict
    Leonard actually outboxed him? Have you even watched the first fight?
    Ray clearly struggled with Hearns' dimensions and hand speed early, but survived and won the marathon by fighting from the outside snd using the entirety of the ring.

    As Hearns faded Leonard resumed his assault.

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    • EDDIE SPERM
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      #32
      Originally posted by VG_Addict
      Title is self-explanatory.
      Oscar Rivas lmao

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      • SUBZER0ED
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        #33
        Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
        But few fighters ever can compare to Tyson Fury.

        That's like saying "after seeing the Giants' defense, everyone knows how to beat Brady qnd the Patriots".
        I understand what you're saying about Fury, but Wilder is NOT to boxing what Brady & the Patriots are to football.

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        • GhostofDempsey
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          #34
          Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
          Wlad and Ruiz both found Joshua's chin.

          Joshua wanted no part of Wilder or Fury.
          Wilder wanted no part of Wlad. Some sources say he was KTFO in sparring by Wald. Not sure if that has ever been proven or debunked.

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          • The D3vil
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            #35
            Everyone not named Tyson Fury

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            • Rusty Tromboni
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              #36
              Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
              I understand what you're saying about Fury, but Wilder is NOT to boxing what Brady & the Patriots are to football.
              See Below.

              Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
              Wilder wanted no part of Wlad. Some sources say he was KTFO in sparring by Wald. Not sure if that has ever been proven or debunked.
              Apparently he only decked him. No KO. Wilder was still green.

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              No. But the success he's had has been incredible.

              Frankly people are too hard on Heavyweights to begin with. I know this from years wrestling and assistant coaching football.

              Look at Ali he's been called "The Greatest" - mostly by himself and casuals who wanna show how woke they are. But he tops most Heavyweight top 10 lists. Compare him to his contemporaries and he looks like dog shyte: Duran, Jofre, Harada, Napoles, Monzon, Canto, Griffith, the list goes on and on... There were many fighters from the 60's and 70's much better than he was. But that's how the Heavyweight division has always worked: imperfect fighters can do exceptionally well because physical ability compensates for skill. (Grizzly bears don't train Brazilian Jujitsu).

              I hate to keep ranting on Ali, but even in his own division he wasn't always the best, but he was the best more often than not. Wilder would have crushed the guys Ali fought.
              Last edited by Rusty Tromboni; 04-15-2020, 09:33 PM.

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              • kiDynamite92
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                #37
                Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
                But this ain't everyone. Is it little man? Its you and me. No one is here to save you. You opened your mouth and I'm putting whatever the fook I want into it. And you're gonna swallow. "Everyone" ain't gonna save you.

                Show me the fighter, not named Fury, who's beaten anyone as good as Wilder. Show me the fighter who hasn't lost to someone worse than Wilder.

                You don't Box. You've never been in a fight. You never played college sports. This over your head. So either bow out or bend over.
                You ain't but doing sheet.

                Regardless of weather I boxed or not is an irrelevant. That's an ad-hominem fallacy. But since we're on that topic, please do show these amazing fights that you've been in? Got some footage?

                You just tried comparing Deontay Wilder to Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis and said a fight against them would be competitive. Those 4 fighters are all former undisputed and lineal heavyweight champions. What has Deontay Wilder done except get pummelled by the one credible opponent he fought to be compared to 4 former lineal champions, the same title that Tyson Fury so proudly wears. Deontay Wilder has sat there his whole life being fed nobodies, he picked up a title from a guy who won it in an eliminator after the previous champion retired from boxing. Then he went onto to beat a bunch of nobodies and avoided Wladamir Klitschko at all costs. This is te guy your comparing to 4 former undisputed and lineal heavyweight champions:

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                  #38
                  Right now I would give him a chance against anybody not named Tyson Fury.

                  Joshua, Ruiz, Parker, Whyte are 50 -50 fights.

                  After Fury finishes him again, Wilder will become a punching bag and stepping stone for new young fighters.

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                  • Rusty Tromboni
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by kiDynamite92
                    You ain't but doing sheet.

                    Regardless of weather I boxed or not is an irrelevant. That's an ad-hominem fallacy. But since we're on that topic, please do show these amazing fights that you've been in? Got some footage?

                    You just tried comparing Deontay Wilder to Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis and said a fight against them would be competitive. Those 4 fighters are all former undisputed and lineal heavyweight champions. What has Deontay Wilder done except get pummelled by the one credible opponent he fought to be compared to 4 former lineal champions, the same title that Tyson Fury so proudly wears. Deontay Wilder has sat there his whole life being fed nobodies, he picked up a title from a guy who won it in an eliminator after the previous champion retired from boxing. Then he went onto to beat a bunch of nobodies and avoided Wladamir Klitschko at all costs. This is te guy your comparing to 4 former undisputed and lineal heavyweight champions:
                    So you admit you've got no clue what you're talking about.

                    LMAO all you got is you can name some chumps who got dropped by lesser chumps. Chumps who'd never be put in front of Wilder today.

                    Come back when you can make a proper account of yourself.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
                      He's kinda like a caricature of Tommy Hearns. Compared to many of the phenomenal fighters produced in the Welterweight division, Hearns is uninspiring. He didn't have the skill or durability many famed Welterweights had. But watch him put Leonard on the mat, or destroy Duran. There's no questioning that more skilled and resilient men would taste defeat due to the insurmountable advantages of Hearns' ridiculous size and power.
                      Huh?

                      I distinctly recall Hearns giving SRL a boxing lesson in both of their fights. Sure, Tommy's chin failed him on multiple occasions but skillwise he's on par with the best to ever lace them up, IMO...

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