Who's the best HW Wilder could beat?

[SUBZER0ED]

Great technical fighter!?
How so?


If he won the title 3 times, I guess that means he lost it, too?

Maybe watch Ali first, before criticizing Wilder.

Watch his fights with Chuvalo. His fight woth Young. With Shavers. With Bugner. With Williams. With Young.

Ali looks great against smaller men, and he's exceptionally fast and strong. But he's clearly a very limited fighter who struggled with opponents much inferior to Wilder.

Only a moron would dispute that.

Tell ya what sport, you go ahead and devalue Ali while declaring Wilder is in his league or better. I'll have boxing conversations with someone who actually knows boxing.

[Nay_Sayer]

Have you ever seen him listed on a LHw top 10 list ?

You realize you're proving my point, right?

Why should I expect to see Tommy Hearns on a top 10 list of LHWs when he spent the greater majority of his career, including his PRIME years, between 147 and 160?

I've never seen SRR on a list of top 10 LHWs despite the fact that he fought there. Using your logic, SRR is way overrated because nobody has him in their top 10 @ LHW, right?

[Rusty Tromboni]

Which fights did they lose against fighters that were lesser then Wilder at a point that wasn't at the end of their careers?

Lol you can't be serious, fighters like Ortiz and Brezeale wouldnt come near a title in those eras.

We're talking about Ali, Lewis, Foreman and Tyson, right?

[Nay_Sayer]

Ortiz and Brezeale would be considered gods in previous generations. Maybe even be champs themselves.

ROTFLMMFAO

I was on the fence but now it's settled.

YDKSAB - and it's painfully obvious.

Ortiz and Brezeale are only considered "gods" in whatever Crystal Meth induced hallucination you're currently suffering from.

Just Say No...

[kiDynamite92]

We're talking about Ali, Lewis, Foreman and Tyson, right?

Yes.

Ali lost to Frazier, not in his prime but close to it but Joe Feazier was far superior to Wilder.

Foreman lost in his Prime to Ali.

Tyson lost to Douglas in his prime, that Douglas I would bet would beat down Wilder. He lost to Holyfield quite a bit past it but Holyfield was one of the greats.

Lewis lost to McCall, the man with quite possibly the greatest chin ever, would fold Wilder and Hasim Rahman which would be a who lands first type of fight, id favour Rahman.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Tell ya what sport, you go ahead and devalue Ali while declaring Wilder is in his league or better. I'll have boxing conversations with someone who actually knows boxing.

Yes or no, Ali was sent to the deck by lesser men than Wilder?

Yes or no, Wilder damn near killed a man faaaar more impressive than Ali?

Watch the Shavers fight.

Or yeah ... just chat with the other girl scouts. See who likes such boy this week.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Why should I expect to see Tommy Hearns on a top 10 list of LHWs when he spent the greater majority of his career, including his PRIME years, between 147 and 160?

I've never seen SRR on a list of top 10 LHWs despite the fact that he fought there. Using your logic, SRR is way overrated because nobody has him in their top 10 @ LHW, right?

Are you frazzled?

The fact that he went so far is reflective of his size and power.

Again, compare his stalemate, Toney, who really wasn't much bigger. But by virtue of his skills as pure-boxer, faired far better against bigger men DESPITE lacking Hearns' physical talents.

Duran, too, because of his superior Boxing skill did much better against Barkley, Hagler and Leonard, though was best at Lightweight.

Wilder, again, lacks Boxing skill. But compensates wonderfully with size and power.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Yes.

Ali lost to Frazier, not in his prime but close to it but Joe Feazier was far superior to Wilder.

Foreman lost in his Prime to Ali.

Tyson lost to Douglas in his prime, that Douglas I would bet would beat down Wilder. He lost to Holyfield quite a bit past it but Holyfield was one of the greats.

Lewis lost to McCall, the man with quite possibly the greatest chin ever, would fold Wilder and Hasim Rahman which would be a who lands first type of fight, id favour Rahman.

LOL, when did you EVER see a better version of Ali than the one who met Frazier in the FOTC!?

What was little Joe Frazier better at than Wilder? Getting rattled? Struggling to shift out of second gear?

You really think Bonavena drops Wilder!? You really think Quarry or Ali rattles Wilder!? You really think Wilder needs tobthrow 5,000 punches to stop Chuvalo or Mathis? You think Wilder runs straight into Foreman's uppercits!?

Foreman lost to Ali because he couldn't go head-hunting. Ali is 4" shorter and 15 lbs. Lighten than Wilder. Watch the fight. Watch the breakdowns. Ali was splitting his praying mantis guard with his jab, and coming overtop with his right hand... Featherfisted Ali put away Foreman faster and more convinvingly than he did litttle Karl Mittleberger. Because Foreman didn't know what to do when his opponent wasn't a smaller man he could spin around.

Why do you think Sandy Saddler never fought fellow Lightweights and preyed on Featherweights? Because that style's dependent on opponents being smaller and less physically gifted. That's not Wilder.

You see what Lyle did to him? Beyonce hits way harder than that. You see how Young's jab qnd beard were too much for him? He wasn't old. He was exposed. He came back and succeeded... with a padded career.

Douglas is a far better boxer than Wilder. But so is Ortiz. And so is Fury. If he can catch Fury. He can catch Douglas.

Tyson struggled with Tucker and Bruno. They couldn't even carry Wilder's jockstrap.

Tyson runs a great chance of stepping inro one of Wilder's shots.

Lewis didn't just lose to Rahman and McAll who definitely aren't on Wilder's level. He also got hustled by Mercer and Holyfield. He was rocked by Vitali.

Seriously, the dudes gonna punk at the mention of Wilder

[JakeTheBoxer]

If Wiler fights Fury the third time, than guys like Ruiz, Whyte, Ajagba, Dubois, Parker and so on, he will end his career with about 6-7 defeats.

[-Kev-]

Anthony Joshua.