Who's the best HW Wilder could beat?

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  • JakeTheBoxer
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    #51
    Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
    So you admit you have no idea what you're talking about, and have no intention of being taken seriously; you're just a desperate attention whore.

    Sounds right. I'll agree to that. Glad we could come to a mutual understanding.
    I have no idea what are you talking about. You tried to make some statement, I just replied.

    I am desperate attention whore because I replied to you? You go to ignore list right now.

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    • SUBZER0ED
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      #52
      Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
      See Below.



      Apparently he only decked him. No KO. Wilder was still green.

      SUBZER0ED

      No. But the success he's had has been incredible.

      Frankly people are too hard on Heavyweights to begin with. I know this from years wrestling and assistant coaching football.

      Look at Ali he's been called "The Greatest" - mostly by himself and casuals who wanna show how woke they are. But he tops most Heavyweight top 10 lists. Compare him to his contemporaries and he looks like dog shyte: Duran, Jofre, Harada, Napoles, Monzon, Canto, Griffith, the list goes on and on... There were many fighters from the 60's and 70's much better than he was. But that's how the Heavyweight division has always worked: imperfect fighters can do exceptionally well because physical ability compensates for skill. (Grizzly bears don't train Brazilian Jujitsu).

      I hate to keep ranting on Ali, but even in his own division he wasn't always the best, but he was the best more often than not. Wilder would have crushed the guys Ali fought.
      Ali was a great technical boxer with pop. He's considered the greatest because he's the first HW to claim the championship title three times. He fought epic battles against the top fighters in the sport. Despite your opinion of him, he's universally recognized as one of the greatest HW boxers of all time. Wilder's resume is laughable, especially compared to Ali's. To compare Wilder's obvious lack of skill to your imagined Ali's lack of skill is ridiculous.

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      • Rusty Tromboni
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        #53
        Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
        Huh?

        Limited boxing ability?

        As I recall, Hearns, a former welter, went all the way up to LHW and gave the best guy there a thorough schooling. Did Tommy enjoy a size and power advantage @ 175?
        Have you ever seen him listed on a LHw top 10 list ?

        You realize you're proving my point, right?

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        • Rusty Tromboni
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          #54
          Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
          I have no idea what are you talking about. You tried to make some statement, I just replied.

          I am desperate attention whore because I replied to you? You go to ignore list right now.
          You made a ****** comment to get attention, yes or no?

          Tuck your tail and run if you wish.

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          • Rusty Tromboni
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            #55
            Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
            Ali was a great technical boxer with pop. He's considered the greatest because he's the first HW to claim the championship title three times. He fought epic battles against the top fighters in the sport. Despite your opinion of him, he's universally recognized as one of the greatest HW boxers of all time. Wilder's resume is laughable, especially compared to Ali's. To compare Wilder's obvious lack of skill to your imagined Ali's lack of skill is ridiculous.
            Great technical fighter!?
            How so?


            If he won the title 3 times, I guess that means he lost it, too?

            Maybe watch Ali first, before criticizing Wilder.

            Watch his fights with Chuvalo. His fight woth Young. With Shavers. With Bugner. With Williams. With Young.

            Ali looks great against smaller men, and he's exceptionally fast and strong. But he's clearly a very limited fighter who struggled with opponents much inferior to Wilder.

            Only a moron would dispute that.

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            • kiDynamite92
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              #56
              Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
              I mean, none of them had the knock out power Wilder has. They all got beat by lesser men.

              Have you even seen any of these guys fight?

              Do you always stick your nose into conversations you know nothing about?
              Those fights they lost were at the end of their careers.

              Who exactly has Wilder stopped to that's noteworthy?

              All 4 of those fights have stopped multiple world champions during their careers. Guess how many world champions Deontay Wilder has stopped? ZERO.

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              • Long jabber
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                #57
                Wilder can beat everyone except parker, ruiz jr, joshua, fury, and whyte

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                  #58
                  Theoretically he can beat any of them if they don't focus on avoiding the right hand while implementing their gameplan.

                  Most of the top 10 boxers right now can outbox Wilder easily, but that has always been the case. It is the same scenario as before. Don't let him measure you and don't get hit with the right hand too many times and you are good to go.

                  Easier said then done like anything else.

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                  • Rusty Tromboni
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by kiDynamite92
                    Those fights they lost were at the end of their careers.

                    Who exactly has Wilder stopped to that's noteworthy?

                    All 4 of those fights have stopped multiple world champions during their careers. Guess how many world champions Deontay Wilder has stopped? ZERO.
                    End of their careers!?!?

                    Now you're just making **** up!
                    Wilder beat fighters who crashm on previous generations' contenders.

                    Ortiz and Brezeale would be considered gods in previous generations. Maybe even be champs themselves.

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                    • kiDynamite92
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
                      End of their careers!?!?

                      Now you're just making **** up!
                      Wilder beat fighters who crashm on previous generations' contenders.

                      Ortiz and Brezeale would be considered gods in previous generations. Maybe even be champs themselves.
                      Which fights did they lose against fighters that were lesser then Wilder at a point that wasn't at the end of their careers?

                      Lol you can't be serious, fighters like Ortiz and Brezeale wouldnt come near a title in those eras.

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