Who's the best HW Wilder could beat?

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  • Froch_uppercut
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    #11
    Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
    Historically?


    I would pick him against most.


    He's clearly much more terrifying than Shavers: Bigger, Harder hitting, more resilient, can pump-out a respectable Double-Jab. And you see how well Shavers did.

    Really, I wouldn't be comfortable betting against him if it were anyone other than Fury.

    I think and prime-Foreman and Prime Tyson are really good picks, but it's still a matter of who lands first. Vitali is probably the safest bet, but I doubt he gets Wilder out of there like Tyson or Foreman could... and the longer the fight goes, the better Wilder's chances. Lewis and Ali are wild cards... it's just as easy to see them running away with the fight as it is to see them getting starched.


    He's kinda like a caricature of Tommy Hearns. Compared to many of the phenomenal fighters produced in the Welterweight division, Hearns is uninspiring. He didn't have the skill or durability many famed Welterweights had. But watch him put Leonard on the mat, or destroy Duran. There's no questioning that more skilled and resilient men would taste defeat due to the insurmountable advantages of Hearns' ridiculous size and power.
    I think you been doing a double ration of crack in isolation.

    Wilder is garbage mate. He lost about 16 of 19 to Fury, and Ortiz - whose best win is what?, Jennings?- was owning him for long spells. How does this make Wilder be good enough to pose a problem to some of the names you mentioned lol.

    I'd love to see him take on Helenius, or Nathan Gorman - I like both of their chances against this American fairy tale.

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      #12
      I'm giving him the benefit of doubt and continuing to believe he can win this fight.

      If he loses again, I dunno, Wallin actually makes a lot of sense....Whyte seems more of a good fight. Joshua probably gets him too if he can't beat Fury after three fights. I think he still KOs the fat slow plodders, the undersized, and the underdeveloped.

      I guess I should say that more provocatively...Even if Wilder get his ass kicked by Tyson again and Joshua too, he can still KO the likes of Ruiz, Usyk, Whyte, Hunter, etc. Most of the pack is overrated dogg**** actually. Wilder doesn't need to evolve anything to knock out most of the division.

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      • VG_Addict
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        #13
        Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
        Historically?


        I would pick him against most.


        He's clearly much more terrifying than Shavers: Bigger, Harder hitting, more resilient, can pump-out a respectable Double-Jab. And you see how well Shavers did.

        Really, I wouldn't be comfortable betting against him if it were anyone other than Fury.

        I think and prime-Foreman and Prime Tyson are really good picks, but it's still a matter of who lands first. Vitali is probably the safest bet, but I doubt he gets Wilder out of there like Tyson or Foreman could... and the longer the fight goes, the better Wilder's chances. Lewis and Ali are wild cards... it's just as easy to see them running away with the fight as it is to see them getting starched.


        He's kinda like a caricature of Tommy Hearns. Compared to many of the phenomenal fighters produced in the Welterweight division, Hearns is uninspiring. He didn't have the skill or durability many famed Welterweights had. But watch him put Leonard on the mat, or destroy Duran. There's no questioning that more skilled and resilient men would taste defeat due to the insurmountable advantages of Hearns' ridiculous size and power.
        YDKSAB. Hearns was outboxing Leonard for most of their first fight, and outboxed Benitez and Hill. In fact, Hearns never got outboxed in his career.
        Last edited by VG_Addict; 04-15-2020, 11:36 AM.

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          #14
          He can beat anyone with that right hand, even the gypsy king if he catches him right. Wilders power in that right hand didnt disappear since he got his ass kicked

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            #15
            Wilder could beat anyone on his night, he has that equaliser.

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              #16
              He can beat any HW not named Tyson Fury...

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                #17
                Originally posted by VG_Addict
                YDKSAB. Hearns was outboxing Leonard for most of their first fight, and outboxed Benitez and Hill. In fact, Hearns never got outboxed in his career.
                What a f***ing idiot.😂😂

                I put that guy on ignore around a year ago now I remember why...

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                • Rusty Tromboni
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Froch_uppercut
                  I think you been doing a double ration of crack in isolation.

                  Wilder is garbage mate. He lost about 16 of 19 to Fury, and Ortiz - whose best win is what?, Jennings?- was owning him for long spells. How does this make Wilder be good enough to pose a problem to some of the names you mentioned lol.

                  I'd love to see him take on Helenius, or Nathan Gorman - I like both of their chances against this American fairy tale.
                  Criticizing a fighter for looking rubbish against Fury would be like calling Bolt a sh.it sprinter because he's slower than deer.

                  Really what's wrong with Ortiz? He was near killed both times... never ever close to making it to the judges.


                  Most of the great Heavyweights lost to or struggled with fighters far worse than Beyonce.

                  Like I said, he's the Heavyweight answer ro Tommy Hearns.

                  Look at Ingo... a Super Middleweight today... even he gad the power to overcome vast disparities in skill and experience, and fitness... and focus... he really shouldn't have been a champion, except that he had heart and face-melting power.

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                  • Rusty Tromboni
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by VG_Addict
                    YDKSAB. Hearns was outboxing Leonard for most of their first fight, and outboxed Benitez and Hill. In fact, Hearns never got outboxed in his career.
                    Do you even know what that means?

                    I know you've read it over and over.

                    But can you explain it?

                    Have you ever even been in a ring?


                    Hearns kept them at length. Consummate Steward product. He had plenty on holes in his game. He wasn't as complete at Leonard, or Benitez, or Duran, or even Hagler.... he was rhe antithesis of stablemate James Toney. But he had fast hands a ridiculous reach, and fought tall.

                    Seriously, Leonard actually out-boxed him. And Benitez was unfocused. But in both cases, the men were concerned with Hearns' punch.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
                      Historically?


                      I would pick him against most.


                      He's clearly much more terrifying than Shavers: Bigger, Harder hitting, more resilient, can pump-out a respectable Double-Jab. And you see how well Shavers did.

                      Really, I wouldn't be comfortable betting against him if it were anyone other than Fury.

                      I think and prime-Foreman and Prime Tyson are really good picks, but it's still a matter of who lands first. Vitali is probably the safest bet, but I doubt he gets Wilder out of there like Tyson or Foreman could... and the longer the fight goes, the better Wilder's chances. Lewis and Ali are wild cards... it's just as easy to see them running away with the fight as it is to see them getting starched.


                      He's kinda like a caricature of Tommy Hearns. Compared to many of the phenomenal fighters produced in the Welterweight division, Hearns is uninspiring. He didn't have the skill or durability many famed Welterweights had. But watch him put Leonard on the mat, or destroy Duran. There's no questioning that more skilled and resilient men would taste defeat due to the insurmountable advantages of Hearns' ridiculous size and power.
                      You sound like you actually believe what your wrote. Yeah, put down down the drugs and step away from the computer.

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