Who's the best HW Wilder could beat?

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  • kiDynamite92
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    #71
    Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
    LOL, when did you EVER see a better version of Ali than the one who met Frazier in the FOTC!?

    What was little Joe Frazier better at than Wilder? Getting rattled? Struggling to shift out of second gear?

    You really think Bonavena drops Wilder!? You really think Quarry or Ali rattles Wilder!? You really think Wilder needs tobthrow 5,000 punches to stop Chuvalo or Mathis? You think Wilder runs straight into Foreman's uppercits!?

    Foreman lost to Ali because he couldn't go head-hunting. Ali is 4" shorter and 15 lbs. Lighten than Wilder. Watch the fight. Watch the breakdowns. Ali was splitting his praying mantis guard with his jab, and coming overtop with his right hand... Featherfisted Ali put away Foreman faster and more convinvingly than he did litttle Karl Mittleberger. Because Foreman didn't know what to do when his opponent wasn't a smaller man he could spin around.

    Why do you think Sandy Saddler never fought fellow Lightweights and preyed on Featherweights? Because that style's dependent on opponents being smaller and less physically gifted. That's not Wilder.

    You see what Lyle did to him? Beyonce hits way harder than that. You see how Young's jab qnd beard were too much for him? He wasn't old. He was exposed. He came back and succeeded... with a padded career.

    Douglas is a far better boxer than Wilder. But so is Ortiz. And so is Fury. If he can catch Fury. He can catch Douglas.

    Tyson struggled with Tucker and Bruno. They couldn't even carry Wilder's jockstrap.

    Tyson runs a great chance of stepping inro one of Wilder's shots.

    Lewis didn't just lose to Rahman and McAll who definitely aren't on Wilder's level. He also got hustled by Mercer and Holyfield. He was rocked by Vitali.

    Seriously, the dudes gonna punk at the mention of Wilder
    Just about any version of Ali was better then the one in FOTC. That was the third fight between Ali and Frazier, when they were both considerable past it. The best version of Ali was the prior to the ban.

    Joe Frazier struggled more at getting out of second gear and being rattled more then Wilder? You are completely insane! How often has Wilder been outboxed now before landing a knock out blow? The guy couldn't even get out of 1st!


    Frazier was the undisputed and lineal champion. He had to fight the BEST. Of course he's going to get knocked down at times and get rattled. Wilder on the other hand refused to fight the best. When he became champion he ducked Klitschko. Had zero interest in Parker and could never get the fight signed against Joshua. Come back to me when Wilder actually fights the heat before trying to diminish Joe when holding and defending the lineal and undisputed titles.

    You're wrong about Foreman. Everyone one of his loses were against guys smaller then him and that's for a reason. He struggles against guys who can move, those that were bigger were used as punching bags. Wilder was pummelled by a guy who he repeatedly called feather fisted, a guy who wasn't even Known to be a puncher!

    Foreman came back at 50 and was smacking the young generation around. Wilder in his prime was being bested by a 50 year old man and a guy who was a former football player! Never mind the fact he could never unify, capture the lineal title or anything. The joke is on you.


    He can catch Douglas but one shot is not going to put him away and he's not going to land one before Douglas does and Douglas has more power then Fury.

    Tyson struggled with Tucker and Bruno? What world are you in?! Tucker ran and Tyson won every round! Bruno was decimated twice and the fight wasn't even competitive! Both fighters who had solid fights with Lennox Lewis.

    Tyson caught numerous shots from Lennox and didn't go down. Wilder's punches will be like pillows for Tyson.

    Rahman and McCal were legit champions which is more then I could say for Wilder. Mercer fight was good, Mercer being an Olympic gold medalist. He would shatter Wilder if they ever met. Holyfield would maul him. Vitali gave him a solid fight but I wonder why Wilder never tried to fight him, even at 40 years old he showed zero desire.


    Let this sink in, you can say whatever you want and so can I. But let's talk cold hard facts:

    1. Ali, Foreman, Lewis and Tyson all held the undisputed and lineal titles.
    2. The all had to defend those titles from the best.
    3. All of them had stopped a world champion before.
    4. Wilder has done NONE of those.

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    • Rusty Tromboni
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      #72
      Originally posted by kiDynamite92
      Just about any version of Ali was better then the one in FOTC. That was the third fight between Ali and Frazier, when they were both considerable past it. The best version of Ali was the prior to the ban.

      Joe Frazier struggled more at getting out of second gear and being rattled more then Wilder? You are completely insane! How often has Wilder been outboxed now before landing a knock out blow? The guy couldn't even get out of 1st!


      Frazier was the undisputed and lineal champion. He had to fight the BEST. Of course he's going to get knocked down at times and get rattled. Wilder on the other hand refused to fight the best. When he became champion he ducked Klitschko. Had zero interest in Parker and could never get the fight signed against Joshua. Come back to me when Wilder actually fights the heat before trying to diminish Joe when holding and defending the lineal and undisputed titles.

      You're wrong about Foreman. Everyone one of his loses were against guys smaller then him and that's for a reason. He struggles against guys who can move, those that were bigger were used as punching bags. Wilder was pummelled by a guy who he repeatedly called feather fisted, a guy who wasn't even Known to be a puncher!

      Foreman came back at 50 and was smacking the young generation around. Wilder in his prime was being bested by a 50 year old man and a guy who was a former football player! Never mind the fact he could never unify, capture the lineal title or anything. The joke is on you.


      He can catch Douglas but one shot is not going to put him away and he's not going to land one before Douglas does and Douglas has more power then Fury.

      Tyson struggled with Tucker and Bruno? What world are you in?! Tucker ran and Tyson won every round! Bruno was decimated twice and the fight wasn't even competitive! Both fighters who had solid fights with Lennox Lewis.

      Tyson caught numerous shots from Lennox and didn't go down. Wilder's punches will be like pillows for Tyson.

      Rahman and McCal were legit champions which is more then I could say for Wilder. Mercer fight was good, Mercer being an Olympic gold medalist. He would shatter Wilder if they ever met. Holyfield would maul him. Vitali gave him a solid fight but I wonder why Wilder never tried to fight him, even at 40 years old he showed zero desire.


      Let this sink in, you can say whatever you want and so can I. But let's talk cold hard facts:

      1. Ali, Foreman, Lewis and Tyson all held the undisputed and lineal titles.
      2. The all had to defend those titles from the best.
      3. All of them had stopped a world champion before.
      4. Wilder has done NONE of those.
      I definitely enjoyed reading that.

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        #73
        Originally posted by Thraxox
        Today? Anyone not named Joshua, Fury, Whyte.

        He has a trash resume.
        parker
        usyk
        joe joyce
        hrgovic
        dubois
        yoka
        ruiz
        maybe even ajagba

        they'd all beat him.

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        • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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          #74
          Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
          Yeah, cuz I was honest about your sister giving better head than you do.
          1. I don’t have a sister.

          2. What a weak ass comeback.😂😂

          Get a life you sad c***...

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          • Rusty Tromboni
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            #75
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
            1. I don’t have a sister.

            2. What a weak ass comeback.😂😂

            Get a life you sad c***...
            Doesn't change the fact that you were all tears when I gave you honest feedback about your subpar *******s.

            P.S. you lay there like a fish, too.

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