Rewatching Andre Ward Fights During This Lockdown? JK. THAT DUDE WAS A CON JOB!

[daggum]

I would never claim Ward never just wrestled and grappled, but in the round I mentioned that's not really what Ward did. He got inside, a clinch happened, but where Ward differs is that he knows how to fight in the clinch and that's what he did to Kessler. Most fighters stop fighting in the clinch or only use it to get a break. Ward actually fights. When Kessler just wants to wait for the clinch to be over, or expects nothing but a clinch, Ward is still positioning and fighting. Sometimes Ward would move inside, Kessler would expect the clinch, and Ward would punch him in the face.

Honestly, it's something that used to be much more common. Fighters didn't use to accept clinches like they do now. They used to gain position, clamp arms, muscles fighters, and keep throwing punches. That kind of clinch fighting was a skill all its own, it's something Duran was spectacular at.

well most of hte time ward is literally holding the guy with one arm so he can get a clean shot off with the other or he clamps his opponents arm then fires off a punch. thats not legal. sometimes he just fakes doing that and his opponents brace themselves for being wrestled and he hits them clean but that never should have happened in the first place if the rules were followed. its like feinging you are going to hit a guy low beause you have been doing it all night and he covers his family ***els but then you hit him in the gut. great job?

[daggum]

Clinching happens in every single ****ing fight. Fighting in the clinch is a skill many ATG fighters have.

yeah you are just playing a semantics game. wrestling is not legal. holding and hitting is not legal. you will see that is what ward is doing most of the time. your arms aren't supposed to be grabbing the other guy in any way shape or form. using body weight is one thing but arms no. also most fights thank god dont resemble ward fights.

[bojangles1987]

yeah you are just playing a semantics game. wrestling is not legal. holding and hitting is not legal. you will see that is what ward is doing most of the time. your arms aren't supposed to be grabbing the other guy in any way shape or form. using body weight is one thing but arms no. also most fights thank god dont resemble ward fights.

If you seriously watch round 2 of Ward-Kessler and call that fouling, then you're going to have to call 99% of fights foul fests.

I'm not talking Ward-Bika or Ward-Rodriguez here.

[emceetns]

dont take these people seriously. they just make things up. they think as memory fades they can make up their own history. they are even saying ggg ducked saunders now lol. there are other articles where lara says i will fight ggg if htey give me millions. keep in mind this was when willie monroe was making like 150k so yeah thats just silliness, not to mention the network complications, not to mention they werent in the same division, not to mention if ggg had fought lara "hes picking on smaller fighters" the same thing they said about rosado and brook.

Yeah you're right. If anything I can just use the research I do for my podcast.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Clinching happens in every single ****ing fight. Fighting in the clinch is a skill many ATG fighters have.

It’s an illegal tactic as are low blows. But I guess the Mares Agbeko fight was good.

[KillaMane26]

Beterbiev was the answer. He is very good in the clinch and has trained with world class MMA grapplers. He was even stronger than Ward(who was not a boxer) in the clinch. Ward obviously retired before he could face him.

Why do yall say that..... Yall said the same thing about Kov. Then also if he didn't retire he was most likely gonna rematch Sergey anyways.

Ward obviously wasn't scared of nobody. He didnt have to move up and fight The Krusher. As soon as he did fans moved to the next boogeyman he was supposedly scared of. Shyt is hilarious

[BKM-]

Why do yall say that..... Yall said the same thing about Kov. Then also if he didn't retire he was most likely gonna rematch Sergey anyways.

Ward obviously wasn't scared of nobody. He didnt have to move up and fight The Krusher. As soon as he did fans moved to the next boogeyman he was supposedly scared of. Shyt is hilarious

Kovalev is a boxer. He's got a good boxing-clinch game but he's no match on the inside against MMA grappler Andre Ward.

He still clearly beat Ward in the first fight and got his nuts smashed into his gut in the second fight. Good for Ward, I guess.

[KillaMane26]

Kovalev is a boxer. He's got a good boxing-clinch game but he's no match on the inside against MMA grappler Andre Ward.

He still clearly beat Ward in the first fight and got his nuts smashed into his gut in the second fight. Good for Ward, I guess.

But thats besides the point..... What has Ward done in his career that would make you think he retired to avoid this guy? This aint Floyd who has said things that would give us a reason to imply these things.

Just say he most likely would lose, instead of all that

[BKM-]

But thats besides the point..... What has Ward done in his career that would make you think he retired to avoid this guy? This aint Floyd who has said things that would give us a reason to imply these things.

Just say he most likely would lose, instead of all that

After the carefully crafted super 6 farce, he took advantage of a weight drained Dawson. Between that time and Kovalev(already went into that. Complete farce it was) he was out of the game for years while there were many tough matchups for him which he never took.

[ruedboy]

You have to wonder what kind of fighter Ward would have been if he hadn't always tried to get away with whatever illegal tactics he could.
I remember his fight with Sakio Bika. Now Bika is one fighter you would think Ward would try to box, but no, Andre fought his usual "survival of the fittest" inside, ugly fight. Ward won the fight, but it made me wonder could Andre even fight from the outside?