Rewatching Andre Ward Fights During This Lockdown? JK. THAT DUDE WAS A CON JOB!

[Vasyl’s dad]

Yes, let's clarify your point.


You are claiming that a fighter who didn't lose a fight from age 12 up until he retired in his professional career and won a gold medal in the Olympics, while unifying two stacked divisions in his professional career in the process, did it all with no true boxing skills.

Why would the Super 6 tournament even exist at SMW unless the division was loaded? It was created to name the king of the heavily stacked division at the time.

He then moved up to Light Heavyweight dethroned the boogeyman of that division beating him back to back and taking all three of his belts, securing a knockout in the process.

He then proceeded to retire as the #1 p4p fighter in the world, and stood #2 only to Floyd Mayweather for years leading up to Mayweather's retirement. He had arguably the best resume in boxing when Mayweather retired...how did he not prove himself against top opposition?




It stands to be about as ******ed of a point as I've ever seen on NSB. You lack brain cells.

Nobody ever considered 168 stacked. It was considered a trash division. Ward wins a tourney and suddenly it’s stacked, lmao.

[Boxing_1013]

Kind of off topic but still on the topic of Ward, I've noticed there used to be footage of certain Ward fights that somehow don't exist anymore. Curious as to why that is.

What did you notice? I had trouble finding good footage of fight 1 with Kov for a while...and then I swear something was edited out of his post fight interview with Max last time I watched it as well

[Curt Henning]

Nobody ever considered 168 stacked. It was considered a trash division. Ward wins a tourney and suddenly it’s stacked, lmao.

lol...ward was an unbeaten olympic gold medalist and yet was the biggest betting underdog before the tourney started.....

[Boxing_1013]

you just admitted that you are a fkn dumbass who knows nothing about this sport

even dopey casuals know how good Ward was... how ignorant can you get

you just shot yourself in the foot, like all that other junk you post

Why do you take it so personally though lol

...and dude what would you know about how good of a boxer someone is...you don't even score fights lol...just fall back man...there is no coming back from that one

[AKAcronym]

What did you notice? I had trouble finding good footage of fight 1 with Kov for a while...and then I swear something was edited out of his post fight interview with Max last time I watched it as well

Only 2 come to mind but his fight with Kenny Kost doesn't exist anymore and his amateur fight with Haydarov seems to have been taken down as well.

Edit: actually the Kost one has been uploaded as of almost 2 weeks ago. Didn't know it go put back up. So scratch that one.

[Boxing_1013]

From Miranda to Kov 2...Ward had 14 fights...those were about his only 'real' fights in his career.

8 of 14 of those fights were in his literal hometown of Oakland...a few of those 8 at least were either controversial or close fights that one could argue went Ward's way for the W because they were in his backyard....that doesn't even get into the advantage you naturally have fighting at home for the other fights that did go his way legitimately.

3 of those 14 fights were also in California.

3 of those 14 fights were PPV type fights against a great foreign fighter...all were fought in the US...he easily could have lost 2 of those 3 in a neutral venue...and even though he beat Froch 7-5 on my card, again fighting in your own country has to give you some edge there too.

So over half of his 14 big fights were in his literal backyard of Oakland.

About 80% of his 14 big fights were in his home state of California.

The other 3 were against foreign fighters, in the US, and one was probably a 7-5 win...and the other 2 were very controversial, where he clearly lost 1 but got the nod at home, and the other had some issues with whether or not Ward was able to get away with more than he should have, with the low blows.

What exactly am I supposed to get overly excited about...how am I supposed to overlook all of those things when evaluating Ward...why do some overlook all of that stuff for Ward, but they would never do that for a different fighter.

If PacMan (or insert fighter's name here) was fighting all of his fights in (or insert fighter's hometown here) Kibawe Phillipines and winning in controversial fashion, people would give him sh.it for it, and rightfully so...what is different here with Ward.

[Boxing_1013]

Only 2 come to mind but his fight with Kenny Kost doesn't exist anymore and his amateur fight with Haydarov seems to have been taken down as well.

Edit: actually the Kost one has been uploaded as of almost 2 weeks ago. Didn't know it go put back up. So scratch that one.

OK got ya, yeah I'll have to look for some of his am. footage sometime and give it a watch

[aboutfkntime]

Why do you take it so personally though lol

...and dude what would you know about how good of a boxer someone is...you don't even score fights lol...just fall back man...there is no coming back from that one

very few 30+ year veterans sit down with a pen and paper kid

I know how a fight unfolds... I have instincts about this game that you do not know exist

breadman just admitted that he rarely scores fights

YOU... deciding that scoring a fight is absolute criteria for being a boxing fan... is just as horribly ****** as the other dumb shlt you post

dude, do you really think you are coming back from this...


thinks that Golovkin is the same level as Duran

GGG is comparable to Duran levels-wise for me...
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...=843918&page=4

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thinks that Lemieux is the same level as Canelo/Jacobs

Lemieux... pretty clearly around the level of... Canelo Jacobs...
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...9#post20112309

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proves that he has no idea how to score a professional boxing match...

I'll also tell you how I score them...generally give a 'full point' for a good hard clean shot...and a 'half point' for a punch that is a scoring blow but isn't necessarily super hard or clean.
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...3#post20372893

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you sure have fcuked that account, aboutfkntime you take the only option left...

[aboutfkntime]

No, the bold at the end is an opinion my friend. And I think that stuff in bold you said regarding Kessler isn't even true...do you have a source for that? Seems pretty obvious that the Super 6 was set up to have Ward win...no other reason to have any fights in Oakland if he was the lowest rated contender...yet he had 3 of his 4 fights in Oakland lol...I mean who cares but come on man, just be real.

Kessler was on the record saying he wanted a rematch with Ward but wanted at his place or neutral this time...seems fair to me...also would kind of counter your point that he faced Ward in Oakland due to arrogance...I think he just had no choice.

https://www.boxingscene.com/andre-wa...argeted--48668

what a fkn crybaby idiot

sooooo obvious you have only been following boxing for 5 minutes

FACT: Kessler was the favorite... Ward was a dark horse... and you are a ****head casual-fan

[HeadShots]

Let it be known! Andre ward is the biggest con job in boxing history