The truth about Mayweather

[eco1]

Imagine for a second that Wilder never fought Fury. Deontay knocks out a few more guys and retires undefeated. His fans would say he only needed to be perfect for one second against the likes of Ali, Lennox, Mike Tyson as he’s heralded as the ATG he is not.

See what I’m saying?

No one knows your true limits until you fight the absolute best while they are at their best, which Mayweather didn’t do. To say he beats any legend like SRL is an insult to said legend and every other fighter who aimed for greatness.

A prime Mosley or DLH are several levels above anyone Mayweather faced. The fact is that we will never know how he deals with someone of that caliber who starts neutralizing certain things he does. All we do know is that he seemed pretty okay with not finding out.

Mayweather never fought anyone in equal conditions.
SRL would have mopped the floor with that guy.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Ask Floyd fans why he never fought Lara. They get real quiet and resort to ppv numbers.

[MulaKO]

Ask Floyd fans why he never fought Lara. They get real quiet and resort to ppv numbers.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

Lara was Floyd’s bogeyman

And now I settle down and wait for the attack that ensues

[Chuckguy]

He definitely had better wins post Oscar though.

I think people forget his hands were f***ed post Oscar he couldn’t fight how he fought down at 130-135. It’s a lot harder to fight offensively against naturally bigger men too.

Floyd always leveraged the A-side sh** and played the matchmaking game perfectly but he still amassed a lot of quality wins, calculated risks or not...

Can’t argue this post bro good post

[daggum]

Count up the champs on Pac's resume.

Remember, full titles only. No Regular, IBO, interim, Diamond, Gold, etc.

I'll wait.

count up the champs on leonards resume. floyd has so many more! floyd must be better!

being a title holder means nothing because its not a 1 to 1 comparison. for example floyd beat ortiz who was champ and pac beat thurman who was champ. on paper they both beat 1 champ cept in reality we all know thurman is much better than ortiz so its pointless to make that kind of comparison. quality over quantity. see above for leonards resume vs floyds.

[daggum]

He definitely had better wins post Oscar though.

I think people forget his hands were f***ed post Oscar he couldn’t fight how he fought down at 130-135. It’s a lot harder to fight offensively against naturally bigger men too.

Floyd always leveraged the A-side sh** and played the matchmaking game perfectly but he still amassed a lot of quality wins, calculated risks or not...

did he really have any great wins post oscar? canelo was at 152 and he barely got by trout at 154. that was not the same canelo that fought ggg. pac i guess but if you watch that fight pac lands the much better punches i dont know what the judges were watching there. oh wait conor mcgregor that was big oh that lil japanese boy too

[famicommander]

count up the champs on leonards resume. floyd has so many more! floyd must be better!

being a title holder means nothing because its not a 1 to 1 comparison. for example floyd beat ortiz who was champ and pac beat thurman who was champ. on paper they both beat 1 champ cept in reality we all know thurman is much better than ortiz so its pointless to make that kind of comparison. quality over quantity. see above for leonards resume vs floyds.

Leonard isn't a fair comparison because he fought in a different era, when there were far fewer recognized titles.

But Floyd and Pac fought in the same era.

And yes, it's true that not all champions are created equal. But the fact that there are 6 titles per weight class now (WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO, Ring, lineal) times 17 weight divisions should tell you that anyone who DOESN'T have at least one world title on their resume isn't worth much.

49% of Floyd's fights were wins against world champions (not counting McGregor)
34% of Manny's fights were wins against world champions.

That means 66% of Pac's fights were losses, draws, or wins over opponents who couldn't even get a title in an era where they hand them out like candy.

Pac had 7 losses and 2 draws, and all but one (Torrecampo) were against world champions (including Floyd). You could argue he deserved the W against Bradley and Horn, but you could also argue he deserved 3 (if not 4) losses against Marquez.

Floyd beat everybody there was to beat during his career. Pac walked out of the ring 9 times in his career without a W.

[famicommander]

did he really have any great wins post oscar? canelo was at 152 and he barely got by trout at 154. that was not the same canelo that fought ggg. pac i guess but if you watch that fight pac lands the much better punches i dont know what the judges were watching there. oh wait conor mcgregor that was big oh that lil japanese boy too

After De La Hoya he fought, consecutively:
Ricky Hatton
Juan Manuel Marquez
Shane Mosley
Victor Ortiz
Miguel Cotto
Robert Guerrero
Canelo Alvarez
Marcos Maidana
Marcos Maidana
Manny Pacquiao
Andre Berto

It would take some seriously delusional mental gymnastics to dismiss that run. Hell, right before De Lay Hoya he fought Gatti, Mitchell, Judah, and Baldomir in a row.

For over ten years (January 23, 2005 through September 12, 2015), every single fight Floyd took was against a world champion.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Leonard isn't a fair comparison because he fought in a different era, when there were far fewer recognized titles.

But Floyd and Pac fought in the same era.

And yes, it's true that not all champions are created equal. But the fact that there are 6 titles per weight class now (WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO, Ring, lineal) times 17 weight divisions should tell you that anyone who DOESN'T have at least one world title on their resume isn't worth much.

49% of Floyd's fights were wins against world champions (not counting McGregor)
34% of Manny's fights were wins against world champions.

That means 66% of Pac's fights were losses, draws, or wins over opponents who couldn't even get a title in an era where they hand them out like candy.

Pac had 7 losses and 2 draws, and all but one (Torrecampo) were against world champions (including Floyd). You could argue he deserved the W against Bradley and Horn, but you could also argue he deserved 3 (if not 4) losses against Marquez.

Floyd beat everybody there was to beat during his career. Pac walked out of the ring 9 times in his career without a W.

This is entirely false.

[daggum]

Leonard isn't a fair comparison because he fought in a different era, when there were far fewer recognized titles.

But Floyd and Pac fought in the same era.

And yes, it's true that not all champions are created equal. But the fact that there are 6 titles per weight class now (WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO, Ring, lineal) times 17 weight divisions should tell you that anyone who DOESN'T have at least one world title on their resume isn't worth much.

49% of Floyd's fights were wins against world champions (not counting McGregor)
34% of Manny's fights were wins against world champions.

That means 66% of Pac's fights were losses, draws, or wins over opponents who couldn't even get a title in an era where they hand them out like candy.

Pac had 7 losses and 2 draws, and all but one (Torrecampo) were against world champions (including Floyd). You could argue he deserved the W against Bradley and Horn, but you could also argue he deserved 3 (if not 4) losses against Marquez.

Floyd beat everybody there was to beat during his career. Pac walked out of the ring 9 times in his career without a W.

im not sure where you are getting your numbers or percentages from but pac had way more fights than floyd so doing it by percentage is strange. if you look at raw numbers pac fought 32 champs to floyd 24. no pac didnt win all his fights but some were robbery losses and some of floyds should have been losses too so i dont understand where you are coming from saying floyd fought more champs. its not true