The truth about Mayweather

**RJJ-94-02=GOAT** · 04-07-2020, 05:54 PM

Mayweather’s resume is impeccable IMO. He fought a few guys who were past their best but he still beat very good versions of them regardless. He consistently fought and beat top level opponents for around 17 years. You have to give him credit for what he accomplished inside the ring even if he is a scumbag outside of the ring.

It’s completely unfair to compare his record to Wilder’s tbh man.

**RJJ-94-02=GOAT** · 04-07-2020, 05:55 PM

SRL > Mayweather though no doubt about that.

Just ask Mayweather Sr lol...

**TheMyspaceDayz** · 04-07-2020, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

Mayweather�s resume is impeccable IMO. He fought a few guys who were past their best but he still beat very good versions of them regardless. He consistently fought and beat top level opponents for around 17 years. You have to give him credit for what he accomplished inside the ring even if he is a scumbag outside of the ring.

It�s completely unfair to compare his record to Wilder�s tbh man.

If Mosley is younger then Mayweather gets hit with a fight ending follow up barrage. It would change the entire conversation when people are ranking him. How can you overlook that and every other Mayweather opponent who could have been a step faster with each and every attack? It changes the outcome of every fight. In some cases the changes are slight, in others maybe not so much.

It�s a good resume but when people overlook the circumstances behind a lot of those wins and start talking like he�s top 5 all time, that�s where I take issue with it. I just really don�t see it.

**rudy** · 04-07-2020, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by TheMyspaceDayz

Imagine for a second that Wilder never fought Fury. Deontay knocks out a few more guys and retires undefeated. His fans would say he only needed to be perfect for one second against the likes of Ali, Lennox, Mike Tyson as he�s heralded as the ATG he is not.

See what I�m saying?

No one knows your true limits until you fight the absolute best while they are at their best, which Mayweather didn�t do. To say he beats any legend like SRL is an insult to said legend and every other fighter who aimed for greatness.

A prime Mosley or DLH are several levels above anyone Mayweather faced. The fact is that we will never know how he deals with someone of that caliber who starts neutralizing certain things he does. All we do know is that he seemed pretty okay with not finding out.

Another newbie go and watch fights on youtube to understand boxing

**TheMyspaceDayz** · 04-07-2020, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by rudy

Another newbie go and watch fights on youtube to understand boxing

Another nobody who I haven�t seen post here before. Explain why I�m wrong.

**Lomadeaux** · 04-07-2020, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by TheMyspaceDayz

Imagine for a second that Wilder never fought Fury. Deontay knocks out a few more guys and retires undefeated. His fans would say he only needed to be perfect for one second against the likes of Ali, Lennox, Mike Tyson as he�s heralded as the ATG he is not.

See what I�m saying?

No one knows your true limits until you fight the absolute best while they are at their best, which Mayweather didn�t do. To say he beats any legend like SRL is an insult to said legend and every other fighter who aimed for greatness.

A prime Mosley or DLH are several levels above anyone Mayweather faced. The fact is that we will never know how he deals with someone of that caliber who starts neutralizing certain things he does. All we do know is that he seemed pretty okay with not finding out.

Mayweather signed two contracts in his life against Pacquiao.

Pacquiao only signed one, in 2015.

**famicommander** · 04-07-2020, 07:03 PM

Floyd was 24-0-0-0 against fighters who won at least one world championship.

That's nearly half of his fights. And these are all full WBC, WBA, WBO, IBF, Ring, or lineal titles. Not interim, diamond, gold, silver, regular, or IBO.

Andrade has 29 fights and 0 champs on his resume, for comparison.

**Lomadeaux** · 04-07-2020, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by famicommander

Floyd was 24-0-0-0 against fighters who won at least one world championship.

That's nearly half of his fights. And these are all full WBC, WBA, WBO, IBF, Ring, or lineal titles. Not interim, diamond, gold, silver, regular, or IBO.

Andrade has 29 fights and 0 champs on his resume, for comparison.

Very well said.

**megh50** · 04-07-2020, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by TheMyspaceDayz

If Mosley is younger, then Mayweather gets hit with a fight ending follow up barrage. It would change the entire conversation when people are ranking him. How can you overlook that and every other Mayweather opponent who could have been a step faster with each and every attack? It changes the outcome of every fight. In some cases the changes are slight, in others maybe not so much.

It’s a good resume but when people overlook the circumstances behind a lot of those wins and start talking like he’s top 5 all time, that’s where I take issue with it. I just really don’t see it.

The problem with this analysis is which version of Mayweather you would put them up against? When Mosely was younger, he was fast and strong, but not as smart as he was later in his career. A young Mayweather's hands were just a fast as Mosely, and his feet were better. Vernon Forest and Winky Wright beat a prime Mosely. De La Hoya had tough fights with Whitaker and Tito, and Sugar Ray couldn't beat Duran or Norris head to head in a boxing match. Duran couldn't beat Benitez or Pazienza in his prime either. As great as all these fighters were, they all struggled when they faced defensive fighters, movers and great boxers, and Mayweather is right up there with them in skill, IQ and stamina. The only ones to give him trouble (when he was without injury) were DeLa Hoya and Maidana, and that we know, but De La Hoya never seemed to have the ability to carry out the plan for the whole fight and Maidana didn't have the iq. All of them had a punchers chance, though.

The truth about Mayweather