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That's true but any A level fighter can beat his level of competition in their prime, not including weight class considerations for the moment. The only question is how long their prime last and Mayweather's seems to have lasted very long. For that I acknowledge Mayweather's ATG consistency. But the simple fact is, he never fought an A level fighter in their prime at a comfortable weight. Such an opportunity only comes a few times in an entire career. "He won world titles" is just a debate trick fans do to try to get people to ignore the fact that he never fought the best at their best. In my opinion Ward's win over Kovalev is easily better than anything on Mayweather's resume. You could even argue Canelo fighting GGG in the first fight was a more respectable challenge than anything on Mayweather's resume. If Crawford fights Spence, that would better than anything on Mayweather's resume and so forth. And that says something about the the height of Mayweather's resume overall.
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But Mayweather fought MMA guy (non boxer) best resume ever.Comment
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I hate it when people talk race, unfortunately this is the only way I can explain this. Floyd never fought a slick fast tall African American fighter with a powerful jab, fast hands and great footwork. If he fought one who was 5,10 to 6 feet with power his career would have been different. There was no Leonard or Hearns in his generation of fighters. Even a past his prime Delahoya gave him problems with his reach and jab until he stopped. With a prime DLH the fight is a toss up. Hearns stops him cold early and Leonard stops him late. This isn't Floyd's fault, he came around at the right time and made great moves with timing his fights. Brilliant career.Comment
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Right. I mean mathematically he should have lost or at least been dropped in his career. ( I know his glove touched canvas when he hurt his hand officially legit...) He said “Tune into
see me win, see me lose, see my trunks”. Even his biggest detractors had to watch in case it was the night he might have lost. He found a way to get as many fans as haters which translated into the biggest fights in history. Every boxing fan secretly appreciates that. He did his part by representing history and supporting the precedent of a boxer being the athlete who earns the biggest purse in sports. Floyd didn’t pass off second rate booze at a premium like a lot of celebs. He just won in the ring. He did a lot for boxing. Just spell his name right.Comment
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Floyd’s big name opponents were over the hill and/or small.Comment
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To elevate the back and forth spewing of insults to the status of a 'debate' is pretty damn generous if you ask me. Infantile tit-for-tat nonsense mostly, but these kids too attached to their egos to back down.
Like calling elite level fighters names all day makes you a superior boxing fan...
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The problem with this post isn’t the theory but who the TS is applying it to.
Prime odh and prime Shane refused to fight Floyd. Yet for some odd reason the TS and others hold this fact against Floyd.
What does it say about how truly great someone is as a fighter when boxers the caliber of odh and Shane flat out refuse to fight him in their prime even though they are both bigger?
Not only did they have the size advantage but they were both bigger draws and revenue producers so they would’ve had that advantage as well.
Let’s not rewrite history just to try and knock Floyd down a bit because you don’t like him.
I don’t think anyone disagrees that we don’t get to truly judge you as a fighter if you don’t fight the best.
We should also be able to agree that it is completely illogical and unfair to use the unwillingness to fight Floyd by prime fighters as a knock against Floyd.
If a you run from a fight, that doesn’t mean you get credit for not losing in your prime.Comment
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Mosley jumped up two weight divisions to fight DLH.
He challenged Forrest twice (a guy who owned him in amateurs)
He expressed interest in a potential Hopkins fight
He expressed interest in a Trinidad fight
He fights Winky twice (a guy who experts advised him to avoid)
But he is scared of never fought anyone in their prime Mayweather....
Think about what Big Dunn would have you believe. It’s simply not true and it’s obvious.Comment
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There is ample proof that both odh and Shane refused to fight Floyd. Not even debatable.
Telling the truth about that puts Floyd into proper perspective as a fighter- that while he Lacked Power his skill set and defense were so good that the top guys wanted nothing to do with him because he was high risk, low reward at that point.
Oddly, whenever fighters refuse to fight an opponent, that is used as a measure of their talent and skill, except when Floyd was then guy being denied.
What is it about Floyd that makes people conduct themselves in this fashion?Comment
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