The truth about Mayweather

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After De La Hoya he fought, consecutively:
Ricky Hatton
Juan Manuel Marquez
Shane Mosley
Victor Ortiz
Miguel Cotto
Robert Guerrero
Canelo Alvarez
Marcos Maidana
Marcos Maidana
Manny Pacquiao
Andre Berto

It would take some seriously delusional mental gymnastics to dismiss that run. Hell, right before De Lay Hoya he fought Gatti, Mitchell, Judah, and Baldomir in a row.

For over ten years (January 23, 2005 through September 12, 2015), every single fight Floyd took was against a world champion.

i dont see any great wins there. an old pac who went 5-4 during that stretch? 152 canelo who barely beat trout? i'm talking legit great wins. im talking leonard over hearns or hagler type wins. they simply aren't there. solid run for sure but not spectacular. shouldnt all time greats be spectatular? i mean what is this give everyone a trophy day?

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After De La Hoya he fought, consecutively:
Ricky Hatton
Juan Manuel Marquez
Shane Mosley
Victor Ortiz
Miguel Cotto
Robert Guerrero
Canelo Alvarez
Marcos Maidana
Marcos Maidana
Manny Pacquiao
Andre Berto

It would take some seriously delusional mental gymnastics to dismiss that run. Hell, right before De Lay Hoya he fought Gatti, Mitchell, Judah, and Baldomir in a row.

For over ten years (January 23, 2005 through September 12, 2015), every single fight Floyd took was against a world champion.

for 12 years from 2007 through 2019 every single fight pac took was against a world champ. the streak is still going!

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for 12 years from 2007 through 2019 every single fight pac took was against a world champ. the streak is still going!

Lucas Matthysse never won a real world title.

Jeff Horn was another cherry pick that backfired because of terrible judging.

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Lucas Matthysse never won a real world title.

Jeff Horn was another cherry pick that backfired because of terrible judging.

and here come the caveats! so fighting a shot berto who hadn't done anything in years is part of floyds amazing title run streak but lucas who had the wba belt is not a real titlist. weren't you the guy saying something about mental gymnastics? this was my whole point that you got drawn into. its laughable making comparisons this way. absolutely laughable. berto wasn't a good fight. who cares that he had a title 5 years before. marquez moving up 2 divisions isnt a good fight. who cares that he was a champ at 135. its like ggg fans saying kell brook is a good win. pathetic

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im not sure where you are getting your numbers or percentages from but pac had way more fights than floyd so doing it by percentage is strange. if you look at raw numbers pac fought 32 champs to floyd 24. no pac didnt win all his fights but some were robbery losses and some of floyds should have been losses too so i dont understand where you are coming from saying floyd fought more champs. its not true

24 wins over champs for Floyd / 49 fights = 49%
24 wins over champs for Pacquiao / 71 fights = 34%

Pac fought more champs overall but he also fought a ton of nobodies.

They beat the same amount of champs but Floyd did it in 22 fewer fights.

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and here come the caveats! so fighting a shot berto who hadn't done anything in years is part of floyds amazing title run streak but lucas who had the wba belt is not a real titlist. weren't you the guy saying something about mental gymnastics? this was my whole point that you got drawn into. its laughable making comparisons this way. absolutely laughable. berto wasn't a good fight. who cares that he had a title 5 years before.

The Regular belt is BS and everybody knows it. Manny Charr isn't a heavyweight champion, Lucas Matthysse was never a champion.

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Mayweather’s resume is impeccable IMO. He fought a few guys who were past their best but he still beat very good versions of them regardless. He consistently fought and beat top level opponents for around 17 years. You have to give him credit for what he accomplished inside the ring even if he is a scumbag outside of the ring.

It’s completely unfair to compare his record to Wilder’s tbh man.

I agree with this...his longevity is unprecedented. I get where ts was trying to go, but to compare mayweather to wilder in any sense is asinine. It is true though, that mayweather simply lacks the fights/wins vs prime atg opposition. For that reason, ts is kinda right to say he can’t be compared with the likes srl in that respect. For all we know about mayweather, we’ll never know if he was really THAT good.

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24 wins over champs for Floyd / 49 fights = 49%
24 wins over champs for Pacquiao / 71 fights = 34%

Pac fought more champs overall but he also fought a ton of nobodies.

They beat the same amount of champs but Floyd did it in 22 fewer fights.

and who beat the better champs...quality over quantity. this is why i made the leonard argument. no one would have cared if leonard beat 24 donnie lalondes. floyd had a solid career but lacks the upper echelon wins. manny has those types of wins and the quanity of floyd yet you focus on his losses many of which were dubious or came when he was a teenager fighting for bread

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The Regular belt is BS and everybody knows it. Manny Charr isn't a heavyweight champion, Lucas Matthysse was never a champion.

matthysse was a top 10 fighter when pac beat him. berto was not when floyd beat him. how was berto a better win simply because berto once held a belt 5 and a half years before he fought floyd? like i said many times these kind of comparisons are absolute trash. mental gymnastics gold medalist over here.

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I agree with this...his longevity is unprecedented. I get where ts was trying to go, but to compare mayweather to wilder in any sense is asinine. It is true though, that mayweather simply lacks the fights/wins vs prime atg opposition. For that reason, ts is kinda right to say he can’t be compared with the likes srl in that respect. For all we know about mayweather, we’ll never know if he was really THAT good.

yeah but floyd beat more world champs than leonard! i mean berto! how can you deny that run! old hoya, old mosley, old pac, drained canelo, and berto! AWWW MAH GOD! justl ike leonards run vs prime benitez, prime duran, prime hearns, and a near prime hagler. oh and throw in the undefeated 154 pound linear champ as a tune up.