The truth about Mayweather

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  • famicommander
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    #51
    Originally posted by hugh grant
    ǸO. You will find Pac stats are way and above floyds. Stop lying
    Pac has beat more champs than floyd. Been a champ !more decades than floyd, has way more wins than floyd, in more divisions and at more advanced age than floyd.
    Count up the champs on Pac's resume.

    Remember, full titles only. No Regular, IBO, interim, Diamond, Gold, etc.

    I'll wait.

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    • Ray*
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      #52
      I think its quite insulting when people try and downplay Mayweather's resume and achievements by comparing someone like Wilder's resume to his. And to be honest I blame the ones who tried soooo hard to overhype Wilder's resume prior to his loss against Fury.

      Because this has now given some people the ammunitions to try and kinda compare those two, fact is as a prospect Mayweather fought tougher fights than Wilder, try and compare Mosley's resume to Mayweather's at lightweight for example.

      As a boxing fan you could see that they didn't cut corners with Mayweather, from Corley to Famoso to Chavez to Gennaro he was matched tough, you really need to appreciate his genius not because he didn't lose (People are too caught up in the undefeated status) but because he fought tougher fights than most tries to give him credit for.

      And even when he got to older age he still fought good opponents, the only fight you can criticise him for is the Conor fight but we all know that was a money grab (But to add it to his resume wasn't to my taste).

      Wilder was straight up protected, reject offers after offers that would make him 5 times his normal payday, don't you ever dare compare him to Mayweather EVER.

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      • BKM-
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        #53
        Mayweather is great, just not quite as great as he could have been.

        Sure, he did not beat the best versions of Pacquiao, Cotto, Mosley, De La Hoya, Canelo(these are great fighters that he beat. That's a lot, and I'm missing out on some probably) but they were still very good versions.

        And these are all kinds of different fighters, very diverse resume.

        He's not as great as Manny Pacquiao though.

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        • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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          #54
          Originally posted by megh50
          You got me...But I still don't think a 35-year-old Mayweather would have lost to Norris like Leonard did or that Pazienza would trouble Mayweather at any stage in his career. But, yeah Duran was like 43...bad math by me
          SRL at 35 was finished bro, he didn’t live the life like Mayweather all the drink and drug binges had firmly caught up with Ray by 91.

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          • rudy
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            #55
            You have been in a fight. He fought fighters in their prime I don’t say he was exciting but your thinking is just plain dumb. Go to YouTube and start watch fighters not just from America is Japan has some great fighters

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              #56
              Originally posted by Chuckguy
              Dude no just no
              He was a beast pre Oscar post Oscar ALL of his fights were very calculated risks
              He definitely had better wins post Oscar though.

              I think people forget his hands were f***ed post Oscar he couldn’t fight how he fought down at 130-135. It’s a lot harder to fight offensively against naturally bigger men too.

              Floyd always leveraged the A-side sh** and played the matchmaking game perfectly but he still amassed a lot of quality wins, calculated risks or not...

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                #57
                Originally posted by BoloShot
                Yeah, gotta say it and even though the Hagler win is controversial he made it close enough that I'd consider it a good draw at least.
                Yeah I scored that fight to Hagler tbh. A lot of swing rounds though.

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                  #58
                  No matter how tested or dominant an 0 is in any era fans claim they only went unbeaten because of who they fought.

                  I mean any era.

                  Ancient guys, there's like 4, absolutely no one here gives a **** because who they fought.

                  Bare knuckle adds another five I think, no one gives a **** because who they fought.

                  No one talks about Jimmy Barry.

                  Calzaghe and Marciano only fought legends when they were old.

                  No one gives a **** about Lopez

                  The truth is Mayweather wouldn't be so special if he fought a real threat.


                  Meh, I don't think so, and, I don't think it's possible for someone to take the perspect against Floyd and present themselves as lacking any bias.

                  It is always cast as a poor light, irrefutably something to have and voice a lack of respect for. It is never presented as if Floyd actually fighting a man is a clear indication Floyd is winning and so there is no reason to ever fantasy h2h Mayweather. Mayweather gets the win or Mayweather doesn't sign the fight.

                  It means the same as if Floyd fought X he would have lost except it doesn't demonize him for knowing when to hold them and fold them.

                  That said, I don't believe Floyd actually ducked anyone. People say things like Margarito, kinda reminds me of when Valdes was a popular name for Marciano haters. Id the man beat the man who beat the man you are claiming the original man is ducking? Seems like ***** **** really. Kicked Pac's ass, kicked Cotto's ass, but ducked Marg? Meh, maybe took advantage of Marg failing to get to his level is more correct.

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                  • rudy
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by TheMyspaceDayz
                    Another nobody who I haven’t seen post here before. Explain why I’m wrong.
                    u just joined dec 2019 you mongrel

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                    • TheMyspaceDayz
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by rudy
                      u just joined dec 2019 you mongrel
                      I’ve established myself as someone who knows his stuff ten times over, moron.
                      You should catch up on the times.
                      Trump is president. There is a virus going around so boxing is off. Klitschko retired.
                      Simply sitting there with your inactive account doesn’t mean you know anything. All it means is that you’ve been loitering in the mall with no opinions because your brain is empty.

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