Deontay Wilder plummets from official ranking.

[15 Rounds again]

To a lesser extent thats like GGG plummeting after his draw/loss to Canelo.

Wilder lost in dominating fashion but it was vs a top 3 heavyweight.

Those rankings trash

Wilder should himself be about 10th or so. He has beaten nobody of note whatsoever and we need to slow the f**k down with the hype and look at the reality. Fury has taken his power on several occasions in two fights and what? It's not "biggest puncher ever" or anything like that.
The levels Wilder was fighting at are lightyears from the top guys. And you can't knock a zillion top guys out cos you can't catch them cleanly.
Wilder is a dangerous hw who was made out to be something more than he was by great marketing in order to maximize revenue. Actual boxing observers knew he would be exposed before it happened. That is why he ducked AJ and Whyte - because he'd be undressed and exposed. He got that anyway, just from a cherry pick gone wrong.

[Citizen Koba]

To a lesser extent thats like GGG plummeting after his draw/loss to Canelo.

Wilder lost in dominating fashion but it was vs a top 3 heavyweight.

Those rankings trash

Wilder hasn't plummeted anywhere, man, he wasn't ranked with the IBF, WBO or WBA before he lost either... usually they don't rank the Champions of other orgs, and it's quite likely Deontay wasn't even paying the IBF sanctioning fees (plenty of fighters don't) so won't be ranked by 'em even now - possibly WBO too if PBC / Al have a policy of non-recognition. WBA have now ranked him 3 since he ain't WBC Champion any more and likely the WBC wil have him #2 or #3 when they get round to it. I'm not clear why they haven't updated it yet or ranked him though... seems to be taking em some time.

[MulaKO]

It's an obvious plot by Matchroom and Eddie Hearn to blacklist Deontay Wilder completely out of the Heavyweight title picture.

You really starting to sound like that fughin idiot Monzon with his fughin conspiracies

It's simple.

It's not just that he lost.

It was a complete domination.

Joshua was at least competitive in the early rounds against Ruiz, then he got clipped and he was stopped by the ref on his feet.

Wilder was not competitive except the first round, and even that was shaky. Then got a towel thrown on him.

Joshua never talked significant smack about how Ruiz "ain't gon get up this time".

Joshua avenged his loss. Wilder escaped with a questionable draw and then got absolutely destroyed by an overweight gypsy in the rematch. He had ZERO answer for what was coming his way.

That's the problem, I think.

You Revelated should never call yourself a boxing fan for your genius answer to this ; that’s the problem I think .
You know chit and your response to this post clearly indicates it
You keep believing that Hornets azz is goat
Fughin tool

All I'm seeing here is that folk aint really clear on how the sanctioning orgs rank fighters. Wilder wasn't ranked with anyone except the IBO and the WBC until he lost. Lot of the time the other orgs won't rank a champion with another org and not all fighters are registered or pay fees to all 4 orgs so ain't ranked by all of 'em anyway.

Looks like the WBA have now ranked him since he's no longer a Champion with the WBC. The WBO and IBF may follow suit or may not depending on whether he's pays them sanctioning fees or not... lotta big fighters simply dont register with the IBF cos they don't like the enforcement policies.

When the dust settles expect him still to be within the top 5 with everyone who counts / he pays sanctioning fees too.

Your right K about how they do their rankings
But what I don’t understand is how does he get a ranking in the WBA when clearly hasn’t paid them anything or even fought for anything WBA in at least 3 years
The WBC just hasn’t updated their ranking , that’s it that’s all
Once they do , it would be impossible to have him ranked below #5 being the ex champ and having a rematch already in play
Can’t belieb how many fughin idiots around that believe he’s not ranked cause how he got beat , what a fughin joke wow
And for all the Fugh nut AJ fans who are salivating to attack me , let me say I couldn’t give two fughs about AJ , Fury or Wilder
I think they all stink and are only so dominant cause the division or state of the heavyweights sucks balls
So Fugh off nuthuggers , you know who you are
Yeah , the ones who call Wilder a bum but right after he gets beat they call Fury atg
Dumb fughs , can’t have it both ways

[KillaMane26]

Wilder should himself be about 10th or so. He has beaten nobody of note whatsoever and we need to slow the f**k down with the hype and look at the reality. Fury has taken his power on several occasions in two fights and what? It's not "biggest puncher ever" or anything like that.
The levels Wilder was fighting at are lightyears from the top guys. And you can't knock a zillion top guys out cos you can't catch them cleanly.
Wilder is a dangerous hw who was made out to be something more than he was by great marketing in order to maximize revenue. Actual boxing observers knew he would be exposed before it happened. That is why he ducked AJ and Whyte - because he'd be undressed and exposed. He got that anyway, just from a cherry pick gone wrong.

That aint the point.... He was ranked high so a lost to a highly ranked guy shouldnt make you plummet in rankings. Him being a hypejob or not aint the discussion

[KillaMane26]

Wilder hasn't plummeted anywhere, man, he wasn't ranked with the IBF, WBO or WBA before he lost either... usually they don't rank the Champions of other orgs, and it's quite likely Deontay wasn't even paying the IBF sanctioning fees (plenty of fighters don't) so won't be ranked by 'em even now - possibly WBO too if PBC / Al have a policy of non-recognition. WBA have now ranked him 3 since he ain't WBC Champion any more and likely the WBC wil have him #2 or #3 when they get round to it. I'm not clear why they haven't updated it yet or ranked him though... seems to be taking em some time.

Yea i was thinking that

[Marchegiano]

...but as the bold indicates...he/you said you are a proponent of using those official rankings over the other organizations...thus indicating you agree with them.

That's a stretch and a half. It means they mean more and are more important to me than unofficial rankings. It doesn't mean I'm incapable of independent thought or sharing my thoughts.

Have they been updated? IBF, WBO and WBA wouldn't rank him because he was champ.

March 10 bud.

Not really because Wilder is on suspension due to being knocked out . He’ll be in the rankings again when the rematch is a go. They did the same thing with AJ he got ranked in the WBC after his loss and lower in the other ones .

Wilder didn’t plummet in the rankings bc he was never officially ranked in the other ones , don’t listen to the OP he has no credibility on here and never has. He’s basically crying still over the unofficial rankings that doesn’t have Wilder where he was bragging about before the Fury fight so now he’s on another rankings debate ,the Wilder fan boys are all over the place.

You're an idiot...Champions are official ranked by the other bodies that is exactly what makes a major body a major body. The IBO champs are not recognized by the 4, which means it's minor. The four recognize one another so you either recognize them all or none.....duh.

Wilder was official ranked as the WBC champion in ranking boards.


This is nothing like post Joshua, I posted his post loss ranks...the **** is wrong with you?

There's plenty more decade long posters than me. We've seen champions lose before. We're not noob like you. STFU and learn before you run that ****sucker again.

Ach... damn, been meaning to ask you if you'd be willing to try and get the NSB rankings up and running again... think the mods may have done a bit of a spring clean and stuff and it just kinda disappeared, but I personally thought it was a good resource to have. Just a thought, though I get you might have other pressures on your time time, and responses were a bit hit and miss.

WRT to Wilder the first question I'd be asking is where he was ranked with the other orgs before the Fury loss?... lot of the time the Orgs won't rank the Champion of another sanctioning body, and also plenty of times fighters elect to save money (and/or eliminators etc) by not even registering or paying sanctioning fees to the bodies they don't care about.. and the guys that don't pay the fees don't get a ranking. This is one of the reasons the IBFs rankings usually look like a bag of crap - their ranking system is fine and they play by the book and insist the eliminators and mandatories get made, but because of this the big name fighters often prefer not to sign with em so their rankings look thin.

personally I'd still have to rank Wilder within top 5 or so... someone's got to walk away with the L when top guys in a division collide but it doesn't instantly negate all that's gone before, even if it's kinda lopsided.

EDIT: Yeah OK, here's a 'wayback' of the rankings from June 2019... Wilder just ain't ranked with any of the orgs except for the WBC and IBO, so it ain't that he 'plummeted out' simply that he was never 'in'. Probably the WBA are ranking him now cos he ain't WBC champion anymore , but I ain't got a clue why he ain't in the WBC rankings unless he ain't paid 'em or somesuch.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190626...oxing_rankings

Go to their websites bud. Champions are ranked as champions by the four majors. He was above their board, like any champion, not unranked. It is unusual for a champion to lose and totally lose status. That's why Joshua went from not appearing on WBC's board to WBC's 3rd after his lose. One the WBC site Joshua was above the board like Wilder, but under Wilder. Recognized as the other bodys' champion....and is again.

I stopped the NSB ranking after they unsticked me. I left it in my sig for a while but no one cared so I dropped it entirely. If it's something you enjoyed I'll do it over again fresh, no problem.

Whatever you are pointing out - and I think it's unclear- but whatever it is you're saying, one thing is clear: the public and the governing bodies have realized that this guy is a fraud.

Yeah, I am quite sure you're an alt given there's only two of you and you're both rather new. Why should I give a **** what you have to say?






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To everyone who suggested I don't understand ranking. The **** do you think I posted the post lost Joshua rankings for?

If you'd like to challenge something do that, but, don't come into my thread with a half assed understanding of sanctioning bodies and start teaching.

http://www.wbaboxing.com/wba-ranking#.XmwNQXJKjmg

Does it say WBC Tyson Fury on that official WBA ranking board?

Alright. If you'd like a crash course ask a mother ****er. I'm a little annoyed given MOST of you have seen my work on sanctioning bodies....not only do I know how they work, I can explain from point of origin most procedures.....ffs....if you had to look up whether or not this is normal you should be asking me not telling me....ffs. If you do not understand why the OFFICIAL websites for the OFFICIAL bodies and their OFFICIAL ranking boards list the other body champions ask me before you go assuming and teaching others to assume with you.


I apologize for the harsh tone, but, also, like I said, the **** you think I got them Joshua ranking from? Your theory was busted before I said anything about Wiki being incomplete versions and to use the real ****s.


I do not mean this directly at anyone of youse, no individual post was upsetting, but, the mass of them....wtf boys?


Does every damn thing have to turn into a **** measuring contest about who knows their **** before I can get a real conversation?

Yes, it's abnormal

Yes, other champions are ranked, as champions, duh, that's what makes the four the four....****ing duh.

[-Kev-]

That is crazy, with the Wilder-AJ comparison, because Wilder was TKO'ed by a much better fighter in Fury than AJ was in Ruiz.

But in the end, that's why no one takes the ABC rankings seriously. They have dudes with names like Wong Long Energizer Battery Super Market in their top 10 and just dudes that no one cares about. They also force mismatch mando's all the time. Boxing would be a much better sport if it only had The Ring/and or Lineal title per weight class.

Wilder is at worst the #3 best HW. But realistically, if we're being honest here, he's likely the second best HW right now. Regardless, Fury, Wilder, Joshua are the top 3, in what ever order you want to put it, even as a hater of either of those 3. Even if you call Wilder a skill-less bum, he's still top 3 in the end.

In a perfect ranking system, a single system, ranked by merit and who actually is the best, and who won a good fight recently and who lost a good fight recently, it would go like Fury, AJ, and Wilder. Boxing should stop penalizing top boxers for losing to other top boxers. It's what makes the "0" so glorified. It wasn't boxers who pushed for the "0" to mean anything. It was boxing sanctioning bodies and fans who push for it. Once you lose you're a bum outside of the top 15 best of your weight class.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Some cats talking out of their ass.

"At the end of the day", you can't have it both ways. So pick and stop contradicting yourselves.

If Wilder should be ranked regardless of that loss, you're saying the boxing orgs don't know what the hell they're talking about - so Crawford is way too high, too.

OR

Wilder was overrated to begin with - so they've just come to grips and corrected course.


Pick one and BE CONSISTENT.

[Boxing_1013]

That's a stretch and a half. It means they mean more and are more important to me than unofficial rankings. It doesn't mean I'm incapable of independent thought or sharing my thoughts

Got ya...where would you rank Wilder currently?

[LoadedWraps]

Deontay Wilder is having a rematch with Tyson Fury.

Since he’s fighting for the WBC title, he’s ineligible to be ranked by any other sanctioning body.

It’s why Anthony Joshua wasn’t ranked when the Ruiz rematch was signed. It’s why Tyson Fury wasn’t ranked when he signed to fight Wilder a second time.

Nailed it.