Deontay Wilder plummets from official ranking.

[Ray*]

They did the same thing to Joshua. This isn’t unusual, he would be in the rankings with the next 2 months.

[Boxing_1013]

I don’t know, I consider Fury 1 atm and Wilder 2. Its really hard to gauge Joshua after the Ruiz debacle. If the same Ruiz showed up for the second fight I might of been able to lean towards Joshua as 2 but Ruiz was a shell. That puts a big question mark over Joshua while with Wilder theres no shame in losing to the best. I get the hesitation as in its the way he lost to Fury. We definitely need to see 2020 play out. If Wilder loses again I hope he bounces back and fights Whyte or Ruiz while Fury fights Joshua. Exciting stuff.

Oh to be clear - I would favor Wilder over any HW right now, not named Fury...so I would have him personally still at number 2 - I guess I was saying in that other post, that if people officially had AJ at 2, I can't argue that really...the only guy who I think could really compete with him there is AJ...but as we said, AJ's loss to Ruiz was way worse than Wilder's to Fury...they both got run over...but Fury is much better than Ruiz.

The only reason why I am giving AJ more of a shot now, is because his stamina was good vs Ruiz in fight 2...and DW's was poor last fight vs Fury...that was always going to be Wilder's edge to me...I think he has more heart/toughness/and recovery ability than AJ, and a better chin.

When you put all that together with toptier stamina...and one punch KO power...I can't see how AJ wins really...would have the proverbial puncher's chance of course...but yeah I for a while have favored Wilder there, and still do really.

I really hope to see Wilder-AJ and Wilder-Whyte now...those fights would be really exciting I think, with the UK guys really buzzing about them now...I'd pick Wilder to KO both within 6 rounds tbh...and am very certain he would beat Whyte.

[Spray_resistant]

He might have gotten beaten up and embarrassed by Fury and said some pretty ridiculous things but he'd probably ko most of the fighters on all of the ratings, he shouldn't be listed as anything under a top 5 hw by any credible organization.

[Ray*]

All I'm seeing here is that folk aint really clear on how the sanctioning orgs rank fighters. Wilder wasn't ranked with anyone except the IBO and the WBC before he lost. Lot of the time the other orgs won't rank a champion with another org and not all fighters are registered or pay fees to all 4 orgs so ain't ranked by all of 'em anyway.

Looks like the WBA have now ranked him since he's no longer a Champion with the WBC. The WBO and IBF may follow suit or may not depending on whether he's pays them sanctioning fees or not... lotta big fighters simply dont register with the IBF cos they don't like the enforcement policies.

When the dust settles expect him still to be within the top 5 with everyone who counts / he pays sanctioning fees too.

Spot on, nothin else needed to be add except a lot of posters here don’t understand how rankings work, which am shocked about. I mean am reading quotes like they are “Hating” on Wilder.... SMH, no one is hating. This is how the rankings work. It’s not that they don’t like him or rate him. Once the dust settles then he would be ranked quite highly.

[MulaKO]

Spot on, nothin else needed to be add except a lot of posters here don’t understand how rankings work, which am shocked about. I mean am reading quotes like they are “Hating” on Wilder.... SMH, no one is hating. This is how the rankings work. It’s not that they don’t like him or rate him. Once the dust settles then he would be ranked quite highly.

They ain’t ranking him cause they hate him
Have you ever heard something as fughin dumb as that
I posted earlier and answered two dummy’s and the same post from the K man
Now my question to you is , how come the WBA has Wilder ranked when in all senses he hasn’t given them a dollar in at least three years
That I really didn’t understand and still don’t understand
And by the way the WBC have updated their rankings and Wilder is there

[Citizen Koba]

That's a stretch and a half. It means they mean more and are more important to me than unofficial rankings. It doesn't mean I'm incapable of independent thought or sharing my thoughts.



March 10 bud.




You're an idiot...Champions are official ranked by the other bodies that is exactly what makes a major body a major body. The IBO champs are not recognized by the 4, which means it's minor. The four recognize one another so you either recognize them all or none.....duh.

Wilder was official ranked as the WBC champion in ranking boards.


This is nothing like post Joshua, I posted his post loss ranks...the **** is wrong with you?

There's plenty more decade long posters than me. We've seen champions lose before. We're not noob like you. STFU and learn before you run that ****sucker again.




Go to their websites bud. Champions are ranked as champions by the four majors. He was above their board, like any champion, not unranked. It is unusual for a champion to lose and totally lose status. That's why Joshua went from not appearing on WBC's board to WBC's 3rd after his lose. One the WBC site Joshua was above the board like Wilder, but under Wilder. Recognized as the other bodys' champion....and is again.

I stopped the NSB ranking after they unsticked me. I left it in my sig for a while but no one cared so I dropped it entirely. If it's something you enjoyed I'll do it over again fresh, no problem.



Yeah, I am quite sure you're an alt given there's only two of you and you're both rather new. Why should I give a **** what you have to say?






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To everyone who suggested I don't understand ranking. The **** do you think I posted the post lost Joshua rankings for?

If you'd like to challenge something do that, but, don't come into my thread with a half assed understanding of sanctioning bodies and start teaching.

http://www.wbaboxing.com/wba-ranking#.XmwNQXJKjmg

Does it say WBC Tyson Fury on that official WBA ranking board?

Alright. If you'd like a crash course ask a mother ****er. I'm a little annoyed given MOST of you have seen my work on sanctioning bodies....not only do I know how they work, I can explain from point of origin most procedures.....ffs....if you had to look up whether or not this is normal you should be asking me not telling me....ffs. If you do not understand why the OFFICIAL websites for the OFFICIAL bodies and their OFFICIAL ranking boards list the other body champions ask me before you go assuming and teaching others to assume with you.


I apologize for the harsh tone, but, also, like I said, the **** you think I got them Joshua ranking from? Your theory was busted before I said anything about Wiki being incomplete versions and to use the real ****s.


I do not mean this directly at anyone of youse, no individual post was upsetting, but, the mass of them....wtf boys?


Does every damn thing have to turn into a **** measuring contest about who knows their **** before I can get a real conversation?

Yes, it's abnormal

Yes, other champions are ranked, as champions, duh, that's what makes the four the four....****ing duh.

Just because they recognise the Champions of another organisation doesn't mean they rank em themselves when they ain't Champions. They've an agreement to recognise each others Champions - it'd be impossible to formulate unification policy otherwise and in thiat way they kinda accept each other's legitimacy, but if you don't pay and register with an org they won't rank you in their own ratings - at least to the best of my knowledge.

And apologies, for what it's worth at suggesting a lack of understanding of the rankings systems, man, it actually wasn't directed at you but more at the various posters who seemed to be revelling in the fact they believed Wilder had been dropped outside the Top 15s. Quite clearly he hasn't been and won't be and any organisation that does have him ranked will have him ranked within the top % probably top 3, as borne out by the WBA and updated WBC rankings.

And yes, it you feel it ain't too much of a chore I reckon it'd be good to get the NSB rankings going again, I know that kinda **** can feel like a thankless task at times but I reckon it benefits the forum and - if ain't being too much the hippie here - participatory shit like that helps build a lil community around here too, it might not be much, but every lil helps I reckon.

[Citizen Koba]

Your right K about how they do their rankings
But what I don’t understand is how does he get a ranking in the WBA when clearly hasn’t paid them anything or even fought for anything WBA in at least 3 years
The WBC just hasn’t updated their ranking , that’s it that’s all
Once they do , it would be impossible to have him ranked below #5 being the ex champ and having a rematch already in play
Can’t belieb how many fughin idiots around that believe he’s not ranked cause how he got beat , what a fughin joke wow
And for all the Fugh nut AJ fans who are salivating to attack me , let me say I couldn’t give two fughs about AJ , Fury or Wilder
I think they all stink and are only so dominant cause the division or state of the heavyweights sucks balls
So Fugh off nuthuggers , you know who you are
Yeah , the ones who call Wilder a bum but right after he gets beat they call Fury atg
Dumb fughs , can’t have it both ways

That I can't answer - my assumption was he has continued to pay 'em, I ain't seen evidence to the contrary, but it could be something else... possibly he just started paying 'em now he lost his title or Al had a word, the WBA are arguably the most - ummm... flexible of the orgs when it comes to adapting their rules to new situations and they're always keen to get their fingers in any pie. Hell knowing the WBA they might just rank a dude then ask for the money to keep him there..

Either way #3 is probably about right, certainly no one who does have him ranked will or should rank him outside top 5.

[Laligalaliga]

And some people here will come brag WBC is the most prestigious ranking organization yen-yen-yen.
Scrap.
Just a loss and and he's already missing in top 10.
No rightful thinking man will accept that.
Am not a fan of wilder but missing WBC top 10 is absurd.

[Ray*]

They ain’t ranking him cause they hate him
Have you ever heard something as fughin dumb as that
I posted earlier and answered two dummy’s and the same post from the K man
Now my question to you is , how come the WBA has Wilder ranked when in all senses he hasn’t given them a dollar in at least three years
That I really didn’t understand and still don’t understand
And by the way the WBC have updated their rankings and Wilder is there

Some of them do their rankings earlier than others, the day Joshua lost to Ruiz the WBC ranked him top 3 within a few days after that, but once the rematch was activated he was removed from the rankings in their next update. I just think no matter what happens in July Wilder would be ranked by all 4 major belt organisations. If he isn’t in the top 5 of all of them then I would be shocked, unless his team doesn’t want him ranked/paying fees (PBC and their issues with the WBO for example).

[MulaKO]

That I can't answer - my assumption was he has continued to pay 'em, I ain't seen evidence to the contrary, but it could be something else... possibly he just started paying 'em now he lost his title or Al had a word, the WBA are arguably the most - ummm... flexible of the orgs when it comes to adapting their rules to new situations and they're always keen to get their fingers in any pie. Hell knowing the WBA they might just rank a dude then ask for the money to keep him there..

Either way #3 is probably about right, certainly no one who does have him ranked will or should rank him outside top 5.

All these fughin orgs make me sick
They are so hungry for money and do it so blatantly
That’s how you know they got the upper hand , just don’t give two fughs how they look

Some of them do their rankings earlier than others, the day Joshua lost to Ruiz the WBC ranked him top 3 within a few days after that, but once the rematch was activated he was removed from the rankings in their next update. I just think no matter what happens in July Wilder would be ranked by all 4 major belt organisations. If he isn’t in the top 5 of all of them then I would be shocked, unless his team doesn’t want him ranked/paying fees (PBC and their issues with the WBO for example).

Well , like the man or not , he definitely deserves to be ranked in the top five ( for the moment that is )