Deontay Wilder plummets from official ranking.

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  • ralex
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    #11
    Look at how highly Kownacki is ranked. What a sham these rankings are

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      #12
      That's unusual especially the WBC ratings.

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      • REDEEMER
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        #13
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
        That's unusual especially the WBC ratings.
        Not really because Wilder is on suspension due to being knocked out . He’ll be in the rankings again when the rematch is a go. They did the same thing with AJ he got ranked in the WBC after his loss and lower in the other ones .

        Wilder didn’t plummet in the rankings bc he was never officially ranked in the other ones , don’t listen to the OP he has no credibility on here and never has. He’s basically crying still over the unofficial rankings that doesn’t have Wilder where he was bragging about before the Fury fight so now he’s on another rankings debate ,the Wilder fan boys are all over the place.
        Last edited by REDEEMER; 03-13-2020, 03:10 PM.

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        • DaNeutral.
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          #14
          There's something not right there. He's crap but he ain't that crap. I am looking forward to seeing where he gets placed in the lists that Joshua is top dog of.

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          • Citizen Koba
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            #15
            Originally posted by Marchegiano
            I have for quite a long time been a proponent for exalting official ranking over unofficials, TBRB, Ring, ESPN, Boxrec, you name it I've spoken **** about it.

            So maybe y'all just ain't interested, but, I think it's kinda odd Wilder's getting slaughtered all over the forum for everything but no longer being officially recognized by a single sanctioning body as a top ten fighter with the only exception being the WBA. He's not even a top fifteen anymore:

            WBC
            Tyson Fury
            Dillian Whyte (i)
            1. NOT RATED
            2. Oleksandr Usyk
            3. Oscar Rivas
            4. Luis Ortiz
            5. Andy Ruiz Jr.
            6. Adam Kownacki
            7. Joseph Parker
            8. Daniel Dubois
            9. Filip Hrgovic
            10. Alexander Povetkin
            11. Michael Hunter
            12. Joe Joyce
            13. Dereck Chisora
            14. Kubrat Pulev
            15. Agit Kabayel


            WBA
            Anthony Joshua
            Manuel Charr (wc)
            1. Trevor Bryan (ic)
            2. Deontay Wilder
            3. Oleksandr Usyk
            4. Adam Kownacki
            5. Luis Ortiz
            6. Andy Ruiz Jr.
            7. Robert Helenius
            8. Alexander Povetkin
            9. Michael Hunter
            10. Dereck Chisora
            10. Agit Kabayel
            12. Kubrat Pulev
            13. Sergey Kuzmin
            14. Mladen Miljas
            15. Fres Oquendo


            IBF
            Anthony Joshua
            1. Kubrat Pulev
            2. NOT RATED
            3. Adam Kownacki
            4. Agit Kabayel
            5. Andy Ruiz Jr.
            6. Oleksandr Usyk
            7. Michael Hunter
            8. Filip Hrgovic
            9. Gerald Washington
            10. Alexander Povetkin
            11. Charles Martin
            12. Joseph Parker
            13. Tom Schwarz
            14. Zhang Zhilei
            15. Otto Wallin


            WBO
            Anthony Joshua
            1. Oleksandr Usyk
            2. Joseph Parker
            3. Adam Kownacki
            4. Andy Ruiz, Jr
            5. Daniel Dubois
            6. Junior Fa
            7. Michael Hunter
            8. Evgeny Romanov
            9. Dereck Chisora
            10. Zhilei Zhang
            11. Frank Sanchez Faure
            12. Tom Schwarz
            13. Demsey McKean
            14. Fillip Hrgovic
            15. Fujimoto Kyotaro



            Just for a reminder, when Josh lost to Ruiz he was ranked the following

            WBC & WBA: 3

            IBF: 6

            WBO: 4


            Ranked across the board as a top ten, 3/4 agreed he was still top five, and the two biggest and most important bodies agreed he was top three.


            I just thought it was interesting and figured y'all musta missed this since no one is talking about it.
            Ach... damn, been meaning to ask you if you'd be willing to try and get the NSB rankings up and running again... think the mods may have done a bit of a spring clean and stuff and it just kinda disappeared, but I personally thought it was a good resource to have. Just a thought, though I get you might have other pressures on your time time, and responses were a bit hit and miss.

            WRT to Wilder the first question I'd be asking is where he was ranked with the other orgs before the Fury loss?... lot of the time the Orgs won't rank the Champion of another sanctioning body, and also plenty of times fighters elect to save money (and/or eliminators etc) by not even registering or paying sanctioning fees to the bodies they don't care about.. and the guys that don't pay the fees don't get a ranking. This is one of the reasons the IBFs rankings usually look like a bag of crap - their ranking system is fine and they play by the book and insist the eliminators and mandatories get made, but because of this the big name fighters often prefer not to sign with em so their rankings look thin.

            personally I'd still have to rank Wilder within top 5 or so... someone's got to walk away with the L when top guys in a division collide but it doesn't instantly negate all that's gone before, even if it's kinda lopsided.

            EDIT: Yeah OK, here's a 'wayback' of the rankings from June 2019... Wilder just ain't ranked with any of the orgs except for the WBC and IBO, so it ain't that he 'plummeted out' simply that he was never 'in'. Probably the WBA are ranking him now cos he ain't WBC champion anymore , but I ain't got a clue why he ain't in the WBC rankings unless he ain't paid 'em or somesuch.

            Last edited by Citizen Koba; 03-13-2020, 12:48 PM.

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            • Zaryu
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              #16
              It's particularly surprising from the WBC that still has Luis Ortiz ranked #4, but Wilder (that ko'd Ortiz twice) is no where to be seen in the top ten.

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              • NaijaD
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                #17
                It’s probably yet to be updated for whatever reason, despite the loss he should still be in the top 5/10 of all the organisations rankings.

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                • ShaneMosleySr
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                  #18
                  Deontay Wilder is having a rematch with Tyson Fury.

                  Since he’s fighting for the WBC title, he’s ineligible to be ranked by any other sanctioning body.

                  It’s why Anthony Joshua wasn’t ranked when the Ruiz rematch was signed. It’s why Tyson Fury wasn’t ranked when he signed to fight Wilder a second time.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by OnlytheTruth
                    My jaw hit the floor when I read this. Truly shocked. I'm by no way a Wilder fan but lets be fair, he would KO 90-95% of these guys, maybe more.

                    It won't be long before he becomes a mando.

                    Maybe all the sanctioning bodies saw that cringe Instagram video.
                    It's simple.

                    It's not just that he lost.

                    It was a complete domination.

                    Joshua was at least competitive in the early rounds against Ruiz, then he got clipped and he was stopped by the ref on his feet.

                    Wilder was not competitive except the first round, and even that was shaky. Then got a towel thrown on him.

                    Joshua never talked significant smack about how Ruiz "ain't gon get up this time".

                    Joshua avenged his loss. Wilder escaped with a questionable draw and then got absolutely destroyed by an overweight gypsy in the rematch. He had ZERO answer for what was coming his way.

                    That's the problem, I think.

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                    • KillaMane26
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                      #20
                      This shows if u hater or not..... This is complete BS... No way u can be ranked that high, have a draw and a loss then plummet that far.

                      Whoever made that list obviously letting personal feelings come into play.......

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