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  • Marchegiano
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    #1

    Deontay Wilder plummets from official ranking.

    I have for quite a long time been a proponent for exalting official ranking over unofficials, TBRB, Ring, ESPN, Boxrec, you name it I've spoken **** about it.

    So maybe y'all just ain't interested, but, I think it's kinda odd Wilder's getting slaughtered all over the forum for everything but no longer being officially recognized by a single sanctioning body as a top ten fighter with the only exception being the WBA. He's not even a top fifteen anymore:

    WBC
    Tyson Fury
    Dillian Whyte (i)
    1. NOT RATED
    2. Oleksandr Usyk
    3. Oscar Rivas
    4. Luis Ortiz
    5. Andy Ruiz Jr.
    6. Adam Kownacki
    7. Joseph Parker
    8. Daniel Dubois
    9. Filip Hrgovic
    10. Alexander Povetkin
    11. Michael Hunter
    12. Joe Joyce
    13. Dereck Chisora
    14. Kubrat Pulev
    15. Agit Kabayel


    WBA
    Anthony Joshua
    Manuel Charr (wc)
    1. Trevor Bryan (ic)
    2. Deontay Wilder
    3. Oleksandr Usyk
    4. Adam Kownacki
    5. Luis Ortiz
    6. Andy Ruiz Jr.
    7. Robert Helenius
    8. Alexander Povetkin
    9. Michael Hunter
    10. Dereck Chisora
    10. Agit Kabayel
    12. Kubrat Pulev
    13. Sergey Kuzmin
    14. Mladen Miljas
    15. Fres Oquendo


    IBF
    Anthony Joshua
    1. Kubrat Pulev
    2. NOT RATED
    3. Adam Kownacki
    4. Agit Kabayel
    5. Andy Ruiz Jr.
    6. Oleksandr Usyk
    7. Michael Hunter
    8. Filip Hrgovic
    9. Gerald Washington
    10. Alexander Povetkin
    11. Charles Martin
    12. Joseph Parker
    13. Tom Schwarz
    14. Zhang Zhilei
    15. Otto Wallin


    WBO
    Anthony Joshua
    1. Oleksandr Usyk
    2. Joseph Parker
    3. Adam Kownacki
    4. Andy Ruiz, Jr
    5. Daniel Dubois
    6. Junior Fa
    7. Michael Hunter
    8. Evgeny Romanov
    9. Dereck Chisora
    10. Zhilei Zhang
    11. Frank Sanchez Faure
    12. Tom Schwarz
    13. Demsey McKean
    14. Fillip Hrgovic
    15. Fujimoto Kyotaro



    Just for a reminder, when Josh lost to Ruiz he was ranked the following

    WBC & WBA: 3

    IBF: 6

    WBO: 4


    Ranked across the board as a top ten, 3/4 agreed he was still top five, and the two biggest and most important bodies agreed he was top three.


    I just thought it was interesting and figured y'all musta missed this since no one is talking about it.
  • Boxing_1013
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    #2
    So are you trying to say that in your view, Wilder isn't a top 15 fighter at HW?

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    • rolshans
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      #3
      Originally posted by Boxing_1013
      So are you trying to say that in your view, Wilder isn't a top 15 fighter at HW?
      I think he's trying to say that Wilder has plummeted in official rankings.

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      • Marchegiano
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        #4
        Originally posted by Boxing_1013
        So are you trying to say that in your view, Wilder isn't a top 15 fighter at HW?
        No, obviously not.

        I was just saying I watch the officials because they matter and I know y'all watch magazine rankings that don't matter more so maybe you've missed them.

        TBRB, Ring, so on, their rankings already have threads....people have already given Wilder **** for Ring putting him under Dilly. There is no thread about his official ranking though.

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        • LoadedWraps
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          #5
          Originally posted by Marchegiano
          I have for quite a long time been a proponent for exalting official ranking over unofficials, TBRB, Ring, ESPN, Boxrec, you name it I've spoken **** about it.

          So maybe y'all just ain't interested, but, I think it's kinda odd Wilder's getting slaughtered all over the forum for everything but no longer being officially recognized by a single sanctioning body as a top ten fighter with the only exception being the WBA. He's not even a top fifteen anymore:

          WBC
          Tyson Fury
          Dillian Whyte (i)
          1. NOT RATED
          2. Oleksandr Usyk
          3. Oscar Rivas
          4. Luis Ortiz
          5. Andy Ruiz Jr.
          6. Adam Kownacki
          7. Joseph Parker
          8. Daniel Dubois
          9. Filip Hrgovic
          10. Alexander Povetkin
          11. Michael Hunter
          12. Joe Joyce
          13. Dereck Chisora
          14. Kubrat Pulev
          15. Agit Kabayel


          WBA
          Anthony Joshua
          Manuel Charr (wc)
          1. Trevor Bryan (ic)
          2. Deontay Wilder
          3. Oleksandr Usyk
          4. Adam Kownacki
          5. Luis Ortiz
          6. Andy Ruiz Jr.
          7. Robert Helenius
          8. Alexander Povetkin
          9. Michael Hunter
          10. Dereck Chisora
          10. Agit Kabayel
          12. Kubrat Pulev
          13. Sergey Kuzmin
          14. Mladen Miljas
          15. Fres Oquendo


          IBF
          Anthony Joshua
          1. Kubrat Pulev
          2. NOT RATED
          3. Adam Kownacki
          4. Agit Kabayel
          5. Andy Ruiz Jr.
          6. Oleksandr Usyk
          7. Michael Hunter
          8. Filip Hrgovic
          9. Gerald Washington
          10. Alexander Povetkin
          11. Charles Martin
          12. Joseph Parker
          13. Tom Schwarz
          14. Zhang Zhilei
          15. Otto Wallin


          WBO
          Anthony Joshua
          1. Oleksandr Usyk
          2. Joseph Parker
          3. Adam Kownacki
          4. Andy Ruiz, Jr
          5. Daniel Dubois
          6. Junior Fa
          7. Michael Hunter
          8. Evgeny Romanov
          9. Dereck Chisora
          10. Zhilei Zhang
          11. Frank Sanchez Faure
          12. Tom Schwarz
          13. Demsey McKean
          14. Fillip Hrgovic
          15. Fujimoto Kyotaro



          Just for a reminder, when Josh lost to Ruiz he was ranked the following

          WBC & WBA: 3

          IBF: 6

          WBO: 4


          Ranked across the board as a top ten, 3/4 agreed he was still top five, and the two biggest and most important bodies agreed he was top three.


          I just thought it was interesting and figured y'all musta missed this since no one is talking about it.
          [IMG]https://media1.*****.com/media/Z36diZTBOwJLG/*****.gif?cid=19f5b51ad9787810ee5749ccc866b16652b6 f7424aec7ae8&rid=*****.gif[/IMG]

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          • champion4ever
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            #6
            Originally posted by Marchegiano
            I have for quite a long time been a proponent for exalting official ranking over unofficials, TBRB, Ring, ESPN, Boxrec, you name it I've spoken **** about it.

            So maybe y'all just ain't interested, but, I think it's kinda odd Wilder's getting slaughtered all over the forum for everything but no longer being officially recognized by a single sanctioning body as a top ten fighter with the only exception being the WBA. He's not even a top fifteen anymore:

            WBC
            Tyson Fury
            Dillian Whyte (i)
            1. NOT RATED
            2. Oleksandr Usyk
            3. Oscar Rivas
            4. Luis Ortiz
            5. Andy Ruiz Jr.
            6. Adam Kownacki
            7. Joseph Parker
            8. Daniel Dubois
            9. Filip Hrgovic
            10. Alexander Povetkin
            11. Michael Hunter
            12. Joe Joyce
            13. Dereck Chisora
            14. Kubrat Pulev
            15. Agit Kabayel


            WBA
            Anthony Joshua
            Manuel Charr (wc)
            1. Trevor Bryan (ic)
            2. Deontay Wilder
            3. Oleksandr Usyk
            4. Adam Kownacki
            5. Luis Ortiz
            6. Andy Ruiz Jr.
            7. Robert Helenius
            8. Alexander Povetkin
            9. Michael Hunter
            10. Dereck Chisora
            10. Agit Kabayel
            12. Kubrat Pulev
            13. Sergey Kuzmin
            14. Mladen Miljas
            15. Fres Oquendo


            IBF
            Anthony Joshua
            1. Kubrat Pulev
            2. NOT RATED
            3. Adam Kownacki
            4. Agit Kabayel
            5. Andy Ruiz Jr.
            6. Oleksandr Usyk
            7. Michael Hunter
            8. Filip Hrgovic
            9. Gerald Washington
            10. Alexander Povetkin
            11. Charles Martin
            12. Joseph Parker
            13. Tom Schwarz
            14. Zhang Zhilei
            15. Otto Wallin


            WBO
            Anthony Joshua
            1. Oleksandr Usyk
            2. Joseph Parker
            3. Adam Kownacki
            4. Andy Ruiz, Jr
            5. Daniel Dubois
            6. Junior Fa
            7. Michael Hunter
            8. Evgeny Romanov
            9. Dereck Chisora
            10. Zhilei Zhang
            11. Frank Sanchez Faure
            12. Tom Schwarz
            13. Demsey McKean
            14. Fillip Hrgovic
            15. Fujimoto Kyotaro



            Just for a reminder, when Josh lost to Ruiz he was ranked the following

            WBC & WBA: 3

            IBF: 6

            WBO: 4


            Ranked across the board as a top ten, 3/4 agreed he was still top five, and the two biggest and most important bodies agreed he was top three.


            I just thought it was interesting and figured y'all musta missed this since no one is talking about it.
            It's an obvious plot by Matchroom and Eddie Hearn to blacklist Deontay Wilder completely out of the Heavyweight title picture.

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            • Boxing_1013
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              #7
              Originally posted by Marchegiano
              I have for quite a long time been a proponent for exalting official ranking over unofficials, TBRB, Ring, ESPN, Boxrec, you name it I've spoken **** about it.

              So maybe y'all just ain't interested, but, I think it's kinda odd Wilder's getting slaughtered all over the forum for everything but no longer being officially recognized by a single sanctioning body as a top ten fighter with the only exception being the WBA. He's not even a top fifteen anymore:

              WBC
              Tyson Fury
              Dillian Whyte (i)
              1. NOT RATED
              2. Oleksandr Usyk
              3. Oscar Rivas
              4. Luis Ortiz
              5. Andy Ruiz Jr.
              6. Adam Kownacki
              7. Joseph Parker
              8. Daniel Dubois
              9. Filip Hrgovic
              10. Alexander Povetkin
              11. Michael Hunter
              12. Joe Joyce
              13. Dereck Chisora
              14. Kubrat Pulev
              15. Agit Kabayel


              WBA
              Anthony Joshua
              Manuel Charr (wc)
              1. Trevor Bryan (ic)
              2. Deontay Wilder
              3. Oleksandr Usyk
              4. Adam Kownacki
              5. Luis Ortiz
              6. Andy Ruiz Jr.
              7. Robert Helenius
              8. Alexander Povetkin
              9. Michael Hunter
              10. Dereck Chisora
              10. Agit Kabayel
              12. Kubrat Pulev
              13. Sergey Kuzmin
              14. Mladen Miljas
              15. Fres Oquendo


              IBF
              Anthony Joshua
              1. Kubrat Pulev
              2. NOT RATED
              3. Adam Kownacki
              4. Agit Kabayel
              5. Andy Ruiz Jr.
              6. Oleksandr Usyk
              7. Michael Hunter
              8. Filip Hrgovic
              9. Gerald Washington
              10. Alexander Povetkin
              11. Charles Martin
              12. Joseph Parker
              13. Tom Schwarz
              14. Zhang Zhilei
              15. Otto Wallin


              WBO
              Anthony Joshua
              1. Oleksandr Usyk
              2. Joseph Parker
              3. Adam Kownacki
              4. Andy Ruiz, Jr
              5. Daniel Dubois
              6. Junior Fa
              7. Michael Hunter
              8. Evgeny Romanov
              9. Dereck Chisora
              10. Zhilei Zhang
              11. Frank Sanchez Faure
              12. Tom Schwarz
              13. Demsey McKean
              14. Fillip Hrgovic
              15. Fujimoto Kyotaro



              Just for a reminder, when Josh lost to Ruiz he was ranked the following

              WBC & WBA: 3

              IBF: 6

              WBO: 4


              Ranked across the board as a top ten, 3/4 agreed he was still top five, and the two biggest and most important bodies agreed he was top three.


              I just thought it was interesting and figured y'all musta missed this since no one is talking about it.
              Originally posted by rolshans
              I think he's trying to say that Wilder has plummeted in official rankings.
              Originally posted by Marchegiano
              No, obviously not.

              I was just saying I watch the officials because they matter and I know y'all watch magazine rankings that don't matter more so maybe you've missed them.

              TBRB, Ring, so on, their rankings already have threads....people have already given Wilder **** for Ring putting him under Dilly. There is no thread about his official ranking though.
              ...but as the bold indicates...he/you said you are a proponent of using those official rankings over the other organizations...thus indicating you agree with them.

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              • _Rexy_
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                #8
                Have they been updated? IBF, WBO and WBA wouldn't rank him because he was champ.

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                • R_Walken
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                  #9
                  Aren’t they only Ranked if they pay Sanctioning Fees to the Organization, Not Suprised about the Other 3 , Somewhat Surprised about the WBC though

                  dropping Wilder with the quickness like he has the Corona Virus and hes talking Slick about Canelo in front of Sauliman. That type of sh.it gets you Kicked out the WBC Rankings and put on Saulimans no friend List

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                  • OnlytheTruth
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                    #10
                    My jaw hit the floor when I read this. Truly shocked. I'm by no way a Wilder fan but lets be fair, he would KO 90-95% of these guys, maybe more.

                    It won't be long before he becomes a mando.

                    Maybe all the sanctioning bodies saw that cringe Instagram video.

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