Al Haymon cost Kownacki life changing money

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  • D4thincarnation
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    #181
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    So we now agree there was no offer. What stopped the offer from being made was the knowledge of a signed contract, which Hearn only became aware of when he reached out to Connelly to check on Kownacki's availability. Not anything from Haymon.

    However, Hearn is directly involved in the offer being rejected by Callum as the article states.

    You should be asking robbie to make a thread but I get it, Hearn is a Brit so you guys don't care. Hey. maybe you should make sure they check for Ali Act violations because Hearn didn't do what was best for Callum.

    Yes, but that is irrelevant.
    They made it clear Kownacki was the first choice after Ortiz also turned it down.

    The response was to say Kownacki had signed to fight at an event against a unnamed fighter, for not even 5% of the Joshua fight would have earned him, as well as a chance of being world champion.

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    • Toffee
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      #182
      Originally posted by .!WAR MIKEY!.
      and......

      that boxing blueprint in a nutshell.

      EVERY PROMOTER DOES THIS, not just PBC.
      Absolutely, but who is his manager?

      Managers don't do this, they look after the fighter.

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      • Ray*
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        #183
        Originally posted by _Rexy_
        https://*********.com/povetkin-price...or-works/13052

        A heavyweight clash between Alexander Povetkin and David Price is very close to being finalized for the undercard of the heavyweight unification clash between Anthony Joshua and Joseph Parker on March 31 in Cardiff, Wales. Joshua promoter Eddie Hearn told the Liverpool Echo newspaper that “We’re nearly there. Price has agreed, Povetkin has agreed and we hope that by the end of this week we will be announcing Povetkin versus Price at the stadium for the WBA Inter-Continental title and the number one position with the WBA for Anthony Joshua…this is a massive opportunity for David Price, don’t blink in that one.”
        Yep not an eliminator nor was David price purpose places in the ranking to justify the win for Povetkin. Povetkin was already the number 1 guys who was meant to get his shot at AJ.

        Which is totally different to what the WBA tried to do with Kownacki and Helenius, who was purposely placed in the number 6 entry prior to the fight between the two been announced.

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        • Ray*
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          #184
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          Respectfully, according to this article, Hearn was involved.

          https://www.************.com/2020/03...ative-options/

          “There’s still a chance he could get [the Canelo fight]. It’s small, but, you never know,” said Hearn to Behind The Gloves on it appearing that Callum Smith won’t get Alvarez fight. “We went back to Golden Boy with the contract. We’re ready to go.”

          “We have to look at the likes of Danny Jacobs, we have to look at the likes of Caleb Plant, Benavidez is tied up, Chris Eubank Jr., John Ryder rematch. He has to do what he does and keep inning, but, of course, he does want the biggest fights possible,” said Hearn of Smith.
          Involved in what? Again Joe Gallagher is Smith manager. He and smith decides what to accept or to turn down. Hearn is the guy who goes out there and receives the offers from other promoters for Smith.

          Hearn doesn’t tell Smith what to accept or not. That is up to Smith and Joe, they decide NOT to fight BJS even though Hearn really wanted to make the fight and BJS wanted to make that fight.

          They decided to turn down GBP only offer to smith. That’s their business not Hearn, Hearn business is to show them what is been offered and relay to interest parties what Team smith wants.

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            #185
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            Took me a while to find this. Just wanted to make sure you were clear that Ray* doesn't know what the f-ck he is talking about.

            If Hearn didn't tell Callum as this article suggests then it is clear that Hearn cost Callum life changing money.

            So where is the thread from Robbie Barrett?

            https://www.************.com/2020/02...alvarez-fight/

            Smith Trainer Unaware Of Offer For Canelo Fight

            Callum’s trainer Joe Gallagher wasn’t aware of any offer made by Golden Boy. It appears that Hearn failed to share the information. It would be interesting if Hearn chose not to tell Callum as well. That would be a real kicker.

            Your boxing knowledge seems lacking a bit, do you know who Joe Gallagher is? If you do you would not try and contradict yourself by using him as the gospel. Moreover Smith himself confirmed that he received ONE and ONLY offer from GBP. So if you truly know the history of Joe “Hot tempered” Gallagher then you wouldn’t even post the above quote lol.

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #186
              Originally posted by Ray*
              Your boxing knowledge seems lacking a bit, do you know who Joe Gallagher is? If you do you would not try and contradict yourself by using him as the gospel. Moreover Smith himself confirmed that he received ONE and ONLY offer from GBP. So if you truly know the history of Joe “Hot tempered” Gallagher then you wouldn’t even post the above quote lol.
              Dude you made a claim that his manager is involved in every negotiation.

              Robbie contradicted one part by claiming Gallagher was the trainer and not the manager.

              The other part is contradicted by this article where it clearly states Gallagher didn’t know about the offer.

              I’m not using anyone as gospel. I searched for that article because it directly addressed your point.

              Looks like you are the one whose knowledge is a little off.

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                #187
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                Dude you made a claim that his manager is involved in every negotiation.

                Robbie contradicted one part by claiming Gallagher was the trainer and not the manager.

                The other part is contradicted by this article where it clearly states Gallagher didn’t know about the offer.

                I’m not using anyone as gospel. I searched for that article because it directly addressed your point.

                Looks like you are the one whose knowledge is a little off.
                Why are you always lying saying that "robbie" said. No you posted it was his trainer and i said why are you bringing up trainers.

                You failed trying to compare two different situations. Give it up already. Haymon is supposed to be a manager, he shouldn't be acting like a promoter.

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  Why are you always lying saying that "robbie" said. No you posted it was his trainer and i said why are you bringing up trainers.

                  You failed trying to compare two different situations. Give it up already. Haymon is supposed to be a manager, he shouldn't be acting like a promoter.
                  No I didn’t the article indicated it was his trainer, not me. Ray called him his manager.

                  I didn’t fail at anything. You have no proof haymon cost kownacki any money. Just the usual supposition.

                  I have shown there is definitive proof Hearn cost callum life changing money.

                  As a reminder, the Ali Act lawsuit was dismissed so whatever fake anger you have about haymon allegedly violating the act is bs.

                  Now where is the thread about Hearn costing callus life changing money.

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                  • Robbie Barrett
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    No I didn’t the article indicated it was his trainer, not me. Ray called him his manager.

                    I didn’t fail at anything. You have no proof haymon cost kownacki any money. Just the usual supposition.

                    I have shown there is definitive proof Hearn cost callum life changing money.

                    As a reminder, the Ali Act lawsuit was dismissed so whatever fake anger you have about haymon allegedly violating the act is bs.

                    Now where is the thread about Hearn costing callus life changing money.
                    You couldn't be further from the truth. A lot of Hearns fighters aren't even contracted to him, he works on a fight by fight basis. Haymon locks them down and controls their entire careers. Can't even talk about a fight without permission. Haymon cost Kownacki millions everyone knows it, just like everyone knows he's a promoter as well as a manager. He's a pure scumbag. But even with his scumbag tactics PBC is going to fail.

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                    • rickJen
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                      #190
                      Kownacki, Martin, Ortiz and others should leave Haymon
                      and sign with Hearn.
                      They're wasting their time and money sticking with uncle Al.

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