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  • The Big Dunn
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    #171
    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
    https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/26/eddie...nacki-9325645/


    Seems as Haymon got Kownacki to walk away from life changing money, but getting him tied to fight on his card contract and by promising Wilder for decent money after.


    Uncle Al was lying



    What worries me is that everybody in the business tells me that he [Wilder] has been told – and all these fighters have been told – that his next fights are Luis Ortiz and Adam Kownacki,’ Hearn told


    Haymon plan was clear, keep feeding Wilder bums, hyping them up and feed them to Wilder.

    Thank god Fury ended his schemes.

    Helenius just put another nail in the coffin.
    SO what? Just like we all know AJ is fighting Pulev and Usyk next. If Haymon's plan is clear-that doesn't mean he cost Kownacki life changing money.

    Nothing you have posted shows an offer was made to Kownacki. Nothing you have posted shows Haymon rejected anything or blocked the fight. Just speculation and supposition.

    Now with Hearn we have clear proof an offer was made and we also know it was rejected. We know you slurped Ray* when he made a claim that Callum's manager , who is his trainer according to Robbie, had to be involved in the rejection of the fight. That assertion was proven false. We know Hearn was involved in the decision making process of Callum in rejecting the fight.

    Where is the thread about Hearn costing Callum life changing money?

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      #172
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      Ray* claimed he was his manager. D4th cosigned that. I posted that to show 2 things:

      1. That Ray* had no idea WTF he was posting about and
      2. proof that Hearn was the one that either rejected the fight or told Callum to do so.

      Are you ready to admit Hearn cost Callum life changing money now? If so, back to my initial question-why no thread from you when Hearn actually costs one of his fighters life changing money?
      Smith could have accepted the offer. Kownacki couldn't even enter negotiations without written permission from Haymon, which he didn't get. Big difference.

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      • D4thincarnation
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        #173


        "It finally gets me a step closer to getting a title shot against Deontay Wilder," Kownacki told SN. “I’m currently ranked No. 5 by the WBC, No. 4 by the IBF. Hopefully it gets me a step closer.

        "Hopefully, it will be sooner than later. He’s going to fight Luis Ortiz next, then maybe Tyson Fury in the rematch. I just have to wait my turn. I just have to make sure I’m ready for Deontay
        Poor Kownacki he believed in the Haymon plan and hoped he would get the Wilder shot as Haymon promised him.

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #174
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation
          Bookmakers don't give away money, and are the most unbiased source around.

          Kownacki was first choice, Hearn said it numerous times, yet it was turned down later when they said Kownacki was due to fight on a Haymon card against an unnamed opponent.


          Haymon cost him major money.
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation
          https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/17/antho...nacki-9229725/

          Both turned Joshua down, both under Haymon orders.


          Fury really did do the boxing world a huge service.

          You can try to pivot to something else. that is fine. There is no proof of an offer to Kownacki. There is proof that they talked about wanting to fight kownacki only to find he had signed a contract to fight on a PBC show in the futre. Happens all the time in boxing.

          Haymon cost Kownacki nothing. Further, he had him lined up for a title shot with Wilder.

          Looks oiek Haymon was building him up to eventually fight Wilder. You said this is what should be done with Callum.

          If its ok for Callum it should be ok for Kownacki yet you have this weird double standard where its bad if PBC does it.

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            #175
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            SO what? Just like we all know AJ is fighting Pulev and Usyk next. If Haymon's plan is clear-that doesn't mean he cost Kownacki life changing money.

            Nothing you have posted shows an offer was made to Kownacki. Nothing you have posted shows Haymon rejected anything or blocked the fight. Just speculation and supposition.

            Now with Hearn we have clear proof an offer was made and we also know it was rejected. We know you slurped Ray* when he made a claim that Callum's manager , who is his trainer according to Robbie, had to be involved in the rejection of the fight. That assertion was proven false. We know Hearn was involved in the decision making process of Callum in rejecting the fight.

            Where is the thread about Hearn costing Callum life changing money?

            No point making an offer when you hear back your number 1 choice won't be fighting you as they have a date booked against an unnamed opponent.

            Offer no offer, Haymon stopped Kownacki earning life changing money.

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              #176
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
              Smith could have accepted the offer. Kownacki couldn't even enter negotiations without written permission from Haymon, which he didn't get. Big difference.

              Shocking he is able to laud such power over his fighters, literally stopped the guy from earning life changing money.


              Only to hype up Kownacki more and to feed him to Wilder.


              You can see why the likes of Haney signed up with Hearn.

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                #177
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                Smith could have accepted the offer. Kownacki couldn't even enter negotiations without written permission from Haymon, which he didn't get. Big difference.
                Ok so no offer was made for Kownacki to reject, hence you can't say Haymon cost him life changing. With Callum, we know the monetary value was around $8 mil., which we know is more than he was ever offered.

                According to the article I posted, Callum may not have even had the chance to reject or accept because Hearn may not have told him. Yet no thread from you. Shameful.

                I guess it's fine if a fighter gets screwed out of life changing money so long as a Brit does it.
                Last edited by The Big Dunn; 03-10-2020, 03:26 PM.

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                  #178
                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                  No point making an offer when you hear back your number 1 choice won't be fighting you as they have a date booked against an unnamed opponent.

                  Offer no offer, Haymon stopped Kownacki earning life changing money.
                  So we now agree there was no offer. What stopped the offer from being made was the knowledge of a signed contract, which Hearn only became aware of when he reached out to Connelly to check on Kownacki's availability. Not anything from Haymon.

                  However, Hearn is directly involved in the offer being rejected by Callum as the article states.

                  You should be asking robbie to make a thread but I get it, Hearn is a Brit so you guys don't care. Hey. maybe you should make sure they check for Ali Act violations because Hearn didn't do what was best for Callum.

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                    #179
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                    Shocking he is able to laud such power over his fighters, literally stopped the guy from earning life changing money.


                    Only to hype up Kownacki more and to feed him to Wilder.


                    You can see why the likes of Haney signed up with Hearn.
                    Yeah, Haney like Crawford wants guaranteed money(minimum purse) in writing not promises of being taken care of.

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                      #180
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      Ok so no offer was made for Kownacki to reject, hence you can't say Haymon cost him life changing. With Callum, we know the monetary value was around $8 mil., which we know is more than he was ever offered.

                      According to the article I posted, Callum may not have even had the chance to reject or accept because Hearn may not have told him. Yet no thread from you. Shameful.

                      I guess it's fine if a fighter gets screwed out of life changing money so long as a Brit does it.
                      Just stop embarrassing yourself. We know Hearn/Joshua wanted to fight Kownacki. We know it would have been atleast 6 mil. We know Kownacki couldn't negotiate the fight without Haymons permission. We know Haymon didn't give him permission and gave him a fight on a PBC card instead.

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