Lets be honest Wilder and Fury are both very mediocre

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  • Slicc
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    #71
    Originally posted by Boxing Goat
    You realize that he missed wide like that because he was being tackled by the ref, right? And he went on to ktfo the his opponent, right? Not mediocre.
    Wilder's not mediocre, but these are not the kind of examples you bring up to prove that. Washington is a former football player, with decent jab. Wilder was supposed to knock this guy out. Most of the guys on Wilder's resume are bums like Washington.

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      #72
      Originally posted by Slicc
      Wilder's not mediocre, but these are not the kind of examples you bring up to prove that. Washington is a former football player, with decent jab. Wilder was supposed to knock this guy out. Most of the guys on Wilder's resume are bums like Washington.
      Lol! I didn't 'bring up an example', I just pointed out a fact when someone is trying to degrade a moment in a Wilder fight. To your point, Wilder has several top ten and #1 contender wins since he's had the title. Idk wtf you're talking about. In fact, he is about to fight the #1 ranked HW in the world (False: Wilder is the real #1 HW) in less than 2 weeks.

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        #73
        You know resume whoring is out of control when folks are saying Mike Tyson would lose to Dereck Chisora.

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          #74
          Wilders overall skillset isnt very good but hes blessed with arguably the biggest right hand ever seen in boxing, thats in addition to him being 6'7 and athletic with power that carries throughout the fight and a decent jab.

          Fury is the most skilled "giant" boxer we've ever seen. A 6'9, 250+lb guy with his boxing ability and mobility is an absolute anomaly, far from mediocre.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Boxing Goat
            To your point, Wilder has several top ten and #1 contender wins since he's had the title.
            Let's look at those contenders:

            Eric Molina: A bum, that Chris Arreola knocked out in 1 round. He managed to stun Wilder.

            Johann Duhaupas: Lost to 2 bums before getting stopped by Wilder.

            Artur Szpilka: Glass-jawed bum, who's allergic to being conscious in fights. Got knocked out by Bryant fucking Jennings before Wilder, and again by Adam Kownacki right after Wilder nearly decapitated him. Absolute dosser.

            Chris Arreola: Bin man, who lost to Stiverne and V. Klitschko.

            Gerald Washington: Former football player, with a decent jab. Quit against Jarrell "Juice" Miller and got knocked out by Kownacki after Wilder knocked him out.

            Luis Ortiz: First quality fighter on Wilder's record, but Wilder's fans overrate him. He's never beaten anyone of note, and is old in boxing years.

            Tyson Fury: Best name on Wilder's record by far, and Wilder only fought him because he was coming up off the couch. Fury should've won the first fight, but got robbed.

            Originally posted by Boxing Goat
            Idk wtf you're talking about. In fact, he is about to fight the #1 ranked HW in the world (False: Wilder is the real #1 HW) in less than 2 weeks.
            Wilder's #1 according to who's ratings? I know Boxrec has AJ ranked #1.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Slicc
              Let's look at those contenders:

              Eric Molina: A bum, that Chris Arreola knocked out in 1 round. He managed to stun Wilder.

              Johann Duhaupas: Lost to 2 bums before getting stopped by Wilder.

              Artur Szpilka: Glass-jawed bum, who's allergic to being conscious in fights. Got knocked out by Bryant fucking Jennings before Wilder, and again by Adam Kownacki right after Wilder nearly decapitated him. Absolute dosser.

              Chris Arreola: Bin man, who lost to Stiverne and V. Klitschko.

              Gerald Washington: Former football player, with a decent jab. Quit against Jarrell "Juice" Miller and got knocked out by Kownacki after Wilder knocked him out.

              Luis Ortiz: First quality fighter on Wilder's record, but Wilder's fans overrate him. He's never beaten anyone of note, and is old in boxing years.

              Tyson Fury: Best name on Wilder's record by far, and Wilder only fought him because he was coming up off the couch. Fury should've won the first fight, but got robbed.


              Wilder's #1 according to who's ratings? I know Boxrec has AJ ranked #1.
              Lol! These responses are fun because it looks like I've gotten under your skin with facts.

              Wilder is a WBC champion. The majority of those fighters were either ranked as top contender for his belt or in the top ten.

              When the other title holders WILL NOT fight you, you simply fight the top contenders in your division. Simple as that.

              And as far as Fury being the #1 HW in the world, that's according to Ring ranking, which should be taken as legit unless their Golden Girl fighters are involved.(I.E. Canelo)

              That's a mic drop on your primitive debate class post
              Last edited by Boxing Goat; 02-11-2020, 12:20 PM.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                I like Wilder as a fighter but not as a person.

                If someone was going to expose Wilder it would have been Fury in the first fight. Unfortunately for Tyson, Wilder will now have no regard for his power and he will walk right in an annihilate him. Most likely.

                That said, AJ has no chance and Usyk is just too small. Wilder will be the undisputed HW champ just as soon as those fights take place.
                I like to see Wilder continue and be the undisputed king. I like Fury also though but hes marketing himself out of the sport and already looking forward to 3 fights and whats next.....Meanwhile Wilder is looking forward to One champ...all belts Undisputed lineal champ. Kinda hard not to pull for him.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Slicc
                  Wilder's not mediocre, but these are not the kind of examples you bring up to prove that. Washington is a former football player, with decent jab. Wilder was supposed to knock this guy out. Most of the guys on Wilder's resume are bums like Washington.
                  The average guy on Ali & Tyson's resume were construction workers, can drivers, smokers, drinkers, that half assed their training. I'd take a 6'6 chiseled and fast HW over those guys any day.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Slicc
                    Wilder's #1 according to who's ratings? I know Boxrec has AJ ranked #1.
                    And Lol at that statement!!!!!

                    Boxrec is not a legit ranking system in any form or fashion. They use some kind of algorithm that totally does not work for boxing. They are pretty much only good for tracking fighters records.

                    Want an example? How could AJ possibly be ranked #1 when he was just KTFO in his next to last fight? No way

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                      Wilder is a WBC champion. The majority of those fighters were either ranked as top contender for his belt or in the top ten.
                      Wilder won the WBC strap off of Stiverne, who knocked Arreola out for it. Stiverne was handed the belt against a mediocre fighter he had already beaten, then lost it his very next fight. You really thought I was gonna let you sit here and pretend like Wilder was out here fighting murderer's row?

                      Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                      When the other title holders WILL NOT fight you, you simply fight the top contenders in your division. Simple as that.
                      None of the title holders wanted to fight him? Okay, just forget that Wilder turned down $120m for a deal, which included 2 AJ bouts. Besides, Whyte was and still is a top contender, yet Wilder wanted no smoke with him, even before the Dianabol fiasco. If Wilder's tomato cans were top contenders, then that says a lot about the division itself.

                      Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                      And as far as Fury being the #1 HW in the world, that's according to Ring ranking, which should be taken as legit unless their Golden Girl fighters are involved.(I.E. Canelo)
                      I thought up-to-date ratings were supposed to count recent achievements. Fury got a robbery draw against Wilder and almost lost to Wallin. What kind of criteria are they running over there?

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