Lets be honest Wilder and Fury are both very mediocre

[Larry the boss]

all of them are mediocre... Fury, Wilder Joshua..all of them

[LoadedWraps]

Pretty lousy fighters compared to past guys at the top of the HW division.

One guy hasn't improved at all looks like he stepped into a boxing gym 6 months ago making a career off of a hard right hand.

Another guy who is a clunky awkward pillow puncher with decent athleticism for his size but just the very basic skills.

Name one fighter in HW division history who you would favor against Fury in a 12-15 rounder. Just one. I'll wait.

[Spray_resistant]

Name one fighter in HW division history who you would favor against Fury in a 12-15 rounder. Just one. I'll wait.

Its a lousy division overall, it doesn't make either of them good.

Awful fighters both of them, I'd favor prime Chris Byrd against both.

[BangEM]

Wilder is a protected bum who’s yet to beat anyone. And Fury is also a protected awkward bum whose only win was in the most boring fight ever.

The only heavyweight that stands out is AJ, hence he has been able to achieve so much within a short period. He just needs to keep getting better and people will remember him as one of the greats. His resume is already better than Rid**** Bowe’s.

[NORMNEALON]

Wilder is one of the least skilled champions I have ever seen in any weight class. He is also the most powerful puncher we've seen in maybe 3 generations.

I agree off the top of my head the only other guy I can think of is my guy Ricardo mayorga who I wish a speedy recovery from his recent mugging. But mayo had a win that wilder could only dream of at this point

[PAC-BOY]

As a boxing fan i watch Wilder and cringe. How the **** did we get to this point where a fighter so skill less is viewed as one of the best. ****ing butterbean was more skilled than this guy.

But oh so true !

[NORMNEALON]

Name one fighter in HW division history who you would favor against Fury in a 12-15 rounder. Just one. I'll wait.

I think fury is a great fighter but I would be hard pressed to pick him against Lennox lewis or the greatest muhammad ali . I mean I know size would be an issue for ali but that guy in his prime overcame alot of GREAT fighters...its hard to pick against him at his best . I would pick lennox to stop fury he bulldozed taller fighters .but I agree fury is tough to pick against anyone so is vit klit . But that's just head to head . Furys legacy isnt finished yet and vitali was hugely lacking in that department , but vitali would be another guy who I think could beat fury . Come to think of it I think the bowe who fought vander the first time would be a very tough out for fury too and I would slightly favour him aswell

[PAC-BOY]

Tyson Forman Holyfield Bowe Lewis Ali Fraiser ..... They are not on that level.

With that said i do enjoy watching them. Any evenly skilled opponent is fun to watch and makes a good fight. despite the skill level.

[PAC-BOY]

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Pretty lousy fighters compared to past guys at the top of the HW division.

One guy hasn't improved at all looks like he stepped into a boxing gym 6 months ago making a career off of a hard right hand.

Another guy who is a clunky awkward pillow puncher with decent athleticism for his size but just the very basic skills.

What are your thoughts on AJ?