Oscar calls out PBC

[saopaulo]

does this mean haymon is gonna porter sr to slap up de la coca?

[ShoulderRoll]

Please explain how he 'took' those fighters. They were already Haymon clients, didn't have a signed deal with GB (which it could be argued was the smartest way to handle your business) and bounced.

What's the problem?



Do you have the same energy for Golden Boy 'taking' Canelo from (and being sued by) his previous promotional outfit (Allstar Boxing) ?



You think Mayweather goes on to be the highest grossing boxer of all time 'with or without' Haymon? Based on what?

Oscar thought all those fighters were signed to him, it turns out they weren't thanks to Tricky **** Schaefer and Al Haymon not being upfront with him. That was unethical. Bottom line.

If Oscar and Canelo screwed All Star Boxing then they were unethical as well, but as I understand it Canelo won that case in court. So it could be that All Star Boxing was just trying to worm their way into some money once Canelo hit it big.

Mayweather's sublime boxing skills were ingrained in him by his dad. Based on what he learned in pro training camps in the 1960's from a 70-year-old throwback trainer named Dale or (Darrell) Williams. That's what made him unbeatable, and the passing of the PPV torch he got from fighting Oscar is what catapulted him into a superstar.

Al Haymon had nothing to do with any of that.

[The Big Dunn]

You are, the fact that you cannot see it is shocking.

If you make a claim about Haymon other posters believe is false, it’s not “defending” him if someone quotes you and disagrees with that post. Further, asking for proof of that claim isn’t defending him either.

[TJ highway]

Forget about the Golden Boy. According to PBC Bud Crawford and Manny Pacquiao don't exist just like the unicorns.

[Ray*]

Indeed.

And this exchange between us has been a one-sided display of who actually has one.

Explain please.

The irony in that, you obviously don’t. That’s why you are pro-the promoter.

[Ray*]

If you make a claim about Haymon other posters believe is false, it’s not “defending” him if someone quotes you and disagrees with that post. Further, asking for proof of that claim isn’t defending him either.

Asking for “Proof” that Haymon is preventing fights? There is nothing to defend with that. Posters asking for proof need to educate themselves. I couldn’t care less what other posters like yourselves think. You would sit here and defend Haymon all day. Fact is that man is preventing fights from happening, thus denying his boxers big money not for the benefit of his boxers but for the benefit of his own company who are aligned with his own business, there is nothing to proof from that statement, there is nothing “False” in that statement. You can try and play the “I need proof” card but the fact that you try and dumb meant you are defending Haymon.

[Ray*]

In other words you have nothing to back up what you were saying about fighters signed with Haymon. Thanks for clearing that up.

What did I say about fighters signed with Haymon?

[Thuglife Nelo]

Oscar thought all those fighters were signed to him, it turns out they weren't thanks to Tricky **** Schaefer and Al Haymon not being upfront with him. That was unethical. Bottom line.

If Oscar and Canelo screwed All Star Boxing then they were unethical as well, but as I understand it Canelo won that case in court. So it could be that All Star Boxing was just trying to worm their way into some money once Canelo hit it big.

Mayweather's sublime boxing skills were ingrained in him by his dad. Based on what he learned in pro training camps in the 1960's from a 70-year-old throwback trainer named Dale or (Darrell) Williams. That's what made him unbeatable, and the passing of the PPV torch he got from fighting Oscar is what catapulted him into a superstar.

Al Haymon had nothing to do with any of that.

Well said. I didn’t even know that Canelo won the appeal.

[-Kev-]

Oscar thought all those fighters were signed to him, it turns out they weren't thanks to Tricky **** Schaefer and Al Haymon not being upfront with him. That was unethical. Bottom line.

If Oscar and Canelo screwed All Star Boxing then they were unethical as well, but as I understand it Canelo won that case in court. So it could be that All Star Boxing was just trying to worm their way into some money once Canelo hit it big.

Mayweather's sublime boxing skills were ingrained in him by his dad. Based on what he learned in pro training camps in the 1960's from a 70-year-old throwback trainer named Dale or (Darrell) Williams. That's what made him unbeatable, and the passing of the PPV torch he got from fighting Oscar is what catapulted him into a superstar.

Al Haymon had nothing to do with any of that.

It’s true that Haymon can’t get in the ring to fight for Mayweather but to be fair, Mayweather himself said Haymon got him out of the TR contract, paid for his buyout which I think was $750k, paid for legal fees, and helped him get the DLH fight. Haymon also was the man behind Mayweather’s big paydays starting from Baldomir and on. Mayweather isn’t a financial guru, he had Haymon handling all that, schooling him financially. Something Bob Arum publicly said wasn’t going to happen was Mayweather vs DLH, because Mayweather was asking for too much money ($20mill) and Arum didn’t see eye to eye with DLH. Turns out, there was plenty of money for Mayweather’s asking price, as he earned $30million for that fight, $10 million more than what Arum said was “too much”.

As far as Schaefer and Haymon taking any fighters away, DLH wasn’t doing anything, just partying, that’s on him. Schaefer and Haymon were doing all the work. Schaefer, a banker, with the promotion of GBP fighters, and Haymon with maximizing GBP fighters earnings as their advisor.

DLH went to court vs Schaefer and they settled or whatever, but DLH didn’t keep even one Haymon fighter. There was no wrong doing on Haymon’s part. Haymon didn’t put a gun on any fighter’s head. They went with who they felt comfortable would look out for their best interest. They were free agents, they could’ve stayed with GBP/HBO. They went with FOX/PBC. ALL of them. Latinos, Black, White. They all went with Haymon. There’s a reason for that.

But back to Haymon/Mayweather, there is a reason Mayweather never hesitated to praise Haymon after every fight. Haymon was the financial expert behind Floyd’s legal escape from TR and rise to become one of the richest athletes in the world for years.

[joseph5620]

What did I say about fighters signed with Haymon?

You said Haymon is preventing fights, PBC is bad for boxing, and manipulating fighters. So obviously you are talking about fighters managed by Haymon. That's not something you should even have to ask.