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  • joseph5620
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    #131
    Originally posted by QballLobo
    There were rumors that the only reason that Floyd worked with Oscar for so long was because he fronted Floyd some money to get rid of his IRS problems in exchange for co promotion of his fights for a certain amount of time.
    Makes sense as Floyd was talking about being his own promoter but didn’t do it fully on his own until the Pac fight.
    Those two hated each other, why would Floyd allow him to be involved and eat off Floyd’s name for so long unless some other deal was in place.
    May be true, maybe not.
    Mayweather worked with Golden boy because of Shaefer. He also co promoted the events. Once Shaefer left Mayweather stopped working with Golden boy so that makes sense. According to his team Oscar was never even involved in any aspect of business. Oscar didn't even attend the Canelo fight.That's easy to believe considering Oscar's drug issues.

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    • Thuglife Nelo
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      #132
      Notice that PBC star fighters today never complained about pays. Assuming they are as good as they are, the pay raises at HBO or Showtime would still rise? Since PBC’s debut, how much noise had Swift Garcia made for himself vs when he beat Matthyse, Khan or Judah?

      I’m sure part of Haymon’s plan was to consult racial injustice with marketing at Golden Boy. This is why PBC fighters would always mention, not insinuate, that black fighters weren’t treated right. That was all Haymon’s plan to persuade his clients that Oscar only cared about Mexicans. That’s rather practical to say in post when many of them left.

      It’s rather a paradox. Everything was destined. Who knows where Canelo would be today had PBC or Al Haymayne not stuck it’s nose and stoled. With Wilder having progressed for example, Canelo’s marketing could’ve been reduced by 20% by 2016.

      In other words, Al Haymon’s dream was to play Dracula and stay hidden in a coffin where no one would find him.

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      • Goldie
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        #133
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        Haymon's fighters seem happy which is good for them. But that doesn't excuse Haymon screwing Oscar over and almost ruining his company. Which is what I was addressing.

        Next time try to read more carefully and understand what people are actually discussing before you run your mouth.
        You didn’t get it so let me make it more clear. I’m saying you’re ****** for thinking that Haymon needs an excuse for anything he’s doing let alone for “screwing over Oscar”. You must be an idiot. Like the racists over at Golden Boy haven’t already been exposed. Like oscar and Golden Boy weren’t out to ruin Haymon. Again, you’re ******.

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          #134
          Originally posted by joseph5620
          I've seen at least three different posters challenge you with the same questions yet you keep dancing around them and trying to divert the issue.
          And what do all those three posters have in common? Yeah they are PBC/Haymon cultists. So I wouldn’t really take them seriously. That doesn’t divert from my original post. I stand by it 100%. Haymon/PBC manipulates these boxers, he prevents fights that the fans wants to see and prevents these uneducated boxers from earning more than they should be earning. The only people that couldn’t see this facts are people who struggles to see things.

          You can believe whatever you want to believe since you are here defending him like he is your father. But the fact that we see this with most of his top boxers is evidence enough.

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            #135
            Originally posted by Goldie
            You didn’t get it so let me make it more clear. I’m saying you’re ****** for thinking that Haymon needs an excuse for anything he’s doing let alone for “screwing over Oscar”. You must be an idiot. Like the racists over at Golden Boy haven’t already been exposed. Like oscar and Golden Boy weren’t out to ruin Haymon. Again, you’re ******.
            You're ****** if you don't understand what ethics are.

            Or if you do understand what ethics are but think it's ok to throw them out the window then you're not ****** ...you're just a shitty person.
            Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 02-08-2020, 01:17 PM.

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              #136
              Originally posted by Ray*
              And what do all those three posters have in common? Yeah they are PBC/Haymon cultists. So I wouldn’t really take them seriously. That doesn’t divert from my original post. I stand by it 100%. Haymon/PBC manipulates these boxers, he prevents fights that the fans wants to see and prevents these uneducated boxers from earning more than they should be earning. The only people that couldn’t see this facts are people who struggles to see things.

              You can believe whatever you want to believe since you are here defending him like he is your father. But the fact that we see this with most of his top boxers is evidence enough.


              That's the typical cop out when you have nothing to back up your claims. You tried to pass off lies as facts and got called out on it. Nothing else to see there. Questioning your statements doesn't make one a cultists.


              You and people like youngbidness are far more invested in Haymon and PBC than I've ever been. A post history check will show that. So that's ironic that you would call me a "cultists." Your emotions on this topic are as if Haymon slept with your mother.
              Last edited by joseph5620; 02-08-2020, 01:07 PM.

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              • Bullrider
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                #137
                I have always said Haymon doesn't belong in this business. He prevented a lot of fights from happening. Fights that will forever remain fantasy fights. What's the point for fans following this sport if those fights they want to see don't get made?

                Most insulting part is he's till doing it without any remorse.

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by kraftzman
                  I have always said Haymon doesn't belong in this business. He prevented a lot of fights from happening. Fights that will forever remain fantasy fights. What's the point for fans following this sport if those fights they want to see don't get made?

                  Most insulting part is he's till doing it without any remorse.

                  /
                  The insulting part is uncle Al is not making any counter offers,
                  or send offers to worthy fighters from the other side of the street.
                  Even when his fighters claim they want such and such fighters.

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                  • Bullrider
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by genrick
                    The insulting part is uncle Al is not making any counter offers,
                    or send offers to worthy fighters from the other side of the street.
                    Even when his fighters claim they want such and such fighters.
                    Fans need to do something doe.

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                    • Ray*
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by joseph5620
                      That's the typical cop out when you have nothing to back up your claims. You tried to pass off lies as facts and got called out on it. Nothing else to see there. Questioning your statements doesn't make one.
                      You asking me question and defending Haymon shows you are a cultist. Your questions are quite ignorant and boring. So yes it does make you one. No one who has a proper boxing education would ask the questions you asked, especially when you have the Internet provided for you to attain the right knowledge.

                      The fact that you are jumping and trying to back the promoter over the boxer shows who you are aligned with. There is no debating with someone like yourself who is definitely for the promoter. No one is going to tell me that Haymon doesn’t manipulate these boxers. No one is going to tell me that Haymon is currently good for boxing. Not you or your cult members.

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