Oscar calls out PBC

[Ray*]

The insulting part is uncle Al is not making any counter offers,
or send offers to worthy fighters from the other side of the street.
Even when his fighters claim they want such and such fighters.

You still have his cult members on here rushing to his defence like bots.

[joseph5620]

You asking me question and defending Haymon shows you are a cultist. Your questions are quite ignorant and boring. So yes it does make you one. No one who has a proper boxing education would ask the questions you asked, especially when you have the Internet provided for you to attain the right knowledge.

The fact that you are jumping and trying to back the promoter over the boxer shows who you are aligned with. There is no debating with someone like yourself who is definitely for the promoter. No one is going to tell me that Haymon doesn’t manipulate these boxers. No one is going to tell me that Haymon is currently good for boxing. Not you or your cult members.

I asked you a question because I know you lied. You're so dumb that you admitted that you that you have nothing to support statements. That speaks for itself but you're too ignorant to realize it.

[Ray*]

I asked you a question because I know you lied. You're so dumb that you admitted that you that you have nothing to support statements. That speaks for itself but you're too ignorant to realize it.

You literally too ****** to insult. The fact that you are asking questions for me to back my statement shows how dim some of you are. Like I said I stand by my original post, Haymon manipulates and prevent fights which a lot of us wants to see. I know that hurts your feelings but you got to deal with it.

[Sweet Jones]

Haymon's fighters seem happy which is good for them. But that doesn't excuse Haymon screwing Oscar over and almost ruining his company. Which is what I was addressing.

Next time try to read more carefully and understand what people are actually discussing before you run your mouth.

Sir, any ‘business owner’ who does not know the contractual status of his prime assets (the fighters he promotes) and then signs a settlement that allows the remaining signed fighters on his roster to be bought out of their contracts within 20 days of signing the settlement as ODLH did can only blame HIMSELF for his OWN business failings.

Period.

[The Big Dunn]

Asking for “Proof” that Haymon is preventing fights? There is nothing to defend with that. Posters asking for proof need to educate themselves. I couldn’t care less what other posters like yourselves think. You would sit here and defend Haymon all day. Fact is that man is preventing fights from happening, thus denying his boxers big money not for the benefit of his boxers but for the benefit of his own company who are aligned with his own business, there is nothing to proof from that statement, there is nothing “False” in that statement. You can try and play the “I need proof” card but the fact that you try and dumb meant you are defending Haymon.

This is ******ed. You make up something, don’t prove it, then claim the people asking you for anything solid to back your claim are playing dumb.

That is like someone logging on and posting Ray* is a child ******er. I have no proof but I just know he is and if you tell me otherwise you are playing dumb.

[Ray*]

This is ******ed. You make up something, don’t prove it, then claim the people asking you for anything solid to back your claim are playing dumb.

That is like someone logging on and posting Ray* is a child ******er. I have no proof but I just know he is and if you tell me otherwise you are playing dumb.

Am not sorry that I triggered you or the other cultists off. You can try and defend Haymon all you want by asking for “Proof”. Which is a weak way out. The facts is Haymon is bad for boxing, he prevents fights that is the fans want to see, he manipulates his boxers up to the point where they are taking less money for the same fights. All for his own business benefits. There is too many examples out there, no point in trying to discuss them with you or the other bot. You already think he hasn’t done anything wrong, since nothing is in print.

Like I told you Don King also was the model promoter, until years later... Tyson can teach you a few things or two. If one or two more people start saying am a child ******er then maybe it’s something someone needs to look into. Instead of playing dumb and defending me like am your father.

[joseph5620]

You literally too ****** to insult. The fact that you are asking questions for me to back my statement shows how dim some of you are. Like I said I stand by my original post, Haymon manipulates and prevent fights which a lot of us wants to see. I know that hurts your feelings but you got to deal with it.

You clearly have a low IQ and can't tell the truth to save your life. Nobody with a minimal intelligence claims they are stating facts when they have nothing to back it up with. That's something a child or very unintelligent adult would do.

[-Kev-]

In those days Oscar was the biggest star in the sport and fought who he wanted to fight. His decision to take the Mayweather bout is what ended up making Floyd a household name.

Al Haymon didn't make Oscar take the fight. It was Oscar's choice. Without him making that choice Floyd would never have gotten as big as he did, despite how good he was.

To this day Haymon hasn't been able to create another star. Because there is no Oscar de la Hoya to pass him the torch.

As far as Schaefer and Haymon doing all the work...that was Oscar's company and those were his boxers. They misled him into thinking they were all signed to Golden Boy when in fact they weren't. Which as I said is foul and unethical.

You realize that Arum didn’t want to make the fight, and while it was DLH’s choice to fight Floyd in 2007, he couldn’t fight Floyd in 2005-2006 because of ARUM NOT ALLOWING IT. You do realize this?

Arum is on record, you can look this up, rejecting Mayweather vs DLH.

To make the fight, Floyd had to LEAVE TOP RANK. In order to leave TR, Floyd had to take Arum through an ugly legal battle, that still has Arum bitter til this day, in which AL HAYMON, helped him with the buyout money, lawyers and legal fees, and then helped him negotiate the DLH fight. This is why Arum also hates Haymon. Because he helped Floyd through the legal battle.

Without Haymon, Mayweather’s career would’ve been stalled as badly as Andre Ward and his legal battle with his promoter.

[ShoulderRoll]

You realize that Arum didn’t want to make the fight, and while it was DLH’s choice to fight Floyd in 2007, he couldn’t fight Floyd in 2005-2006 because of ARUM NOT ALLOWING IT. You do realize this?

Arum is on record, you can look this up, rejecting Mayweather vs DLH.

To make the fight, Floyd had to LEAVE TOP RANK. In order to leave TR, Floyd had to take Arum through an ugly legal battle, that still has Arum bitter til this day, in which AL HAYMON, helped him with the buyout money, lawyers and legal fees, and then helped him negotiate the DLH fight. This is why Arum also hates Haymon. Because he helped Floyd through the legal battle.

Without Haymon, Mayweather’s career would’ve been stalled as badly as Andre Ward and his legal battle with his promoter.

Arum is a piece of sh¡t. We all know this.

But even after leaving him Floyd's career would not have ascended to the level it did if Oscar hadn't chosen to fight him. Thus passing the PPV torch.

[-Kev-]

I'm not arguing for Haymon although that's the narrative you want to push. I've asked you to provide names of fighters/examples to back up your claims of manipulating, ruining boxing, and fighters getting held back from better deals and opportunities. You have yet to do so and have admitted you have no list of fighters.

If you throw out accusations without backing it up they are baseless claims.

That’s gonna be an uphill battle, arguing that. Because literally every single fighter that was or is under Haymon has nothing but praise for him.

If some fan is making stuff up about Haymon you can’t really argue against fantasy. They made their mind up about him with no proof. You catch literally any Haymon fighter in the street and ask him how’s it like working with Haymon, they’d probably say it’s great.