Charlo turned down 10-12mil for Canelo. As per PBC and GBP

[aboutfkntime]

Didn’t the WBC order an eliminator bout between Charlo vs. GGG with the winner getting Canelo next???

yep, but Golovkin said that fight made... " no sense at all "

[aboutfkntime]

Well all know your bias. We can probably predict your posts even before we see them. Sad position to be in really

Anyway. Let’s distinguish a couple of things. Convenience doesn’t have much weight anywhere

Canelo ducked a a ridiculous financial position, not the fighter. Offering Charlo 45% is ludicrous

This distinction is justified considering that Canelo seems to have offered Charlo 12m for a fight - an amount 99% would deem fair, if not overpriced for Charlo

You don’t duck fighters by offering a fairer alternative. You duck unwise financial positions

But please go ahead, for the sake of convenience to your bias, to continue blurring the two things

good post !

[Shadoww702]

yep, but Golovkin said that fight made... " no sense at all "

Then they cried FOUL and said that’s Canelo mando doe!!! Let’s Canelo fight Charlo and GGg fights some guy named ROLLS

[Shadoww702]

Is this credible? I haven't listened to the video yet.

Kovalov got about $12 million
Jacobs about the same
Heck I think even Fielding got close to $2 million.

They offered Sergiy like almost $6 million don’t know if that was a flat fee or with % which then would bring up to around what Kov and Jacobs got.

You do the math and it’s not hard to figure out...

[OnePunch]

Yeah I don't know how DAZN is making money from these fights in all honesty and I don't know how sustainable this model is, 6m for Chavez Jr to face Jacobs and 7m for Mikey Garcia to face Vargas?? Doesn't add up at all unless there is something we don't know in terms of their revenue structure.

The funny thing is the only fights that I think are definitely making profit are the YouTube fights which is funny and damning at the same time.

At the end of the day I'm not a seasoned businessman so I can't be sure but my gut tells me DAZN is not yet a profitable venture and has some time before it becomes one.

I suspect they are doing the same thing that PBC did in the beginning. Overpay fighters by a LARGE margin, forcing your competitors to also overspend. And perhaps the entity with the biggest checkbook is the last man standing......

[OnePunch]

Well all know your bias. We can probably predict your posts even before we see them. Sad position to be in really

Anyway. Let’s distinguish a couple of things. Convenience doesn’t have much weight anywhere

Canelo ducked a a ridiculous financial position, not the fighter. Offering Charlo 45% is ludicrous

This distinction is justified considering that Canelo seems to have offered Charlo 12m for a fight - an amount 99% would deem fair, if not overpriced for Charlo

You don’t duck fighters by offering a fairer alternative. You duck unwise financial positions

But please go ahead, for the sake of convenience to your bias, to continue blurring the two things

Canelo didnt "duck" anything, as it relates to Charlo.

In the Canelo-GGG situation, the WBC had actually ordered a mando, which was why Canelo vacated. The WBC had never actually ordered the Canelo-Charlo mando, so there was no reason for Canelo to vacate. Charlo couldnt force a bid, because there was no bid to force. Canelo wasnt ordered to negotiate, wasnt given any deadlines, nothing. He had no reason to vacate......

[N/A]

I know you purposefully included it... despite the fact that it is not true

Is Canelo the WBC world champion or did he vacate the position?

[N/A]

Canelo ducked a a ridiculous financial position, not the fighter. Offering Charlo 45% is ludicrous

WBC is a 70/30 split of 90% of the purse bid, with 10% given to the winner as a bonus. Win or lose, Charlo wouldn't have made 45%. Canelo can also petition for a change of the split and the board of governors will analyze the recent purses of each fighter and vote on a split change. Had Canelo requested 75/25, it would have very likely been granted, possibly even 80/20. He didn't want the fight. Period.

This distinction is justified considering that Canelo seems to have offered Charlo 12m for a fight - an amount 99% would deem fair, if not overpriced for Charlo

99% of who? Uneducated, inexperienced, amateurs on this website who have no idea what they're talking about? Who don't even know if 12MM was really offered or whether it was a clean offer?

It was a mandatory fight. Offers are irrelevant. They were forced to fight each other unless one of them ducked. Canelo ducked. Charlo was willing to fight.

[aboutfkntime]

Is Canelo the WBC world champion or did he vacate the position?

he did nothing

the WBC elevated him... so, go cry to them...

write us another novel about how corrupt the WBO/IBF/WBA happen to be, and how squeaky clean the WBC happen to be

who is the best/highest-ranked WBC middleweight ?

give you a hint... starts with C, ends with o... but is not... Charlo

link me to where Canelo vacated... ?

specifically, to the word... " vacate " ...

unless of course, you completely made it up

[N/A]

the WBC elevated him... so, go cry to them...

You're the only one crying. The WBC "elevated" him because he refused to fight Charlo. He's no longer the world champion. He now has an honorary distinction, that he keeps even if he gets knocked out in the 1st round 10 fights in a row. That's not a championship. Charlo is the champion. Canelo isn't the champion because he preferred to vacate the position of being champion rather than fight Charlo. You act like he had no choice and didn't have the option of fighting Charlo and keeping his world championship.