How Canelo was too green for Floyd?

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  • daggum
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    #51
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    why not?... you seem to do that just fine...

    Mr " the catchweight affected Canelo, but did not affect Cotto "

    silly pacstains should STFU about two things...

    never accuse another fighter of taking steroids, and never cry about catchweights

    pot kettle black(er)
    did you ignore my last post or something? i just said cotto didnt want to fight at 145. thats called a straw man look it up. its not the same thing though and it never will be no matter how much you cry. they both take away from the credibility of the victory but floyds is obviously less credible and you are talking about steroids? floyd is the only one to get caught and need a tue after paying off the testing organization 150k so yeah once again with the false equivalencies. you are runnning those hard tonight i see. is this false equivalency remembrance day or something?
    Last edited by daggum; 01-19-2020, 01:40 AM.

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    • Tony Trick-Pony
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      #52
      If Floyd was promoting Canelo at the time, he would have said, "He young doe."

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      • CatchAndShoot
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        #53
        You forget the fact that all his pro fights are basically his amateur fights as well. He started his boxing career in the pros without an extensive amateur background. He was very green in the Floyd fight.

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        • daggum
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          #54
          Originally posted by CatchAndShoot
          You forget the fact that all his pro fights are basically his amateur fights as well. He started his boxing career in the pros without an extensive amateur background. He was very green in the Floyd fight.
          don't forget drained. oh and certainly dont forget that fake drug testing program that floyd had with usada. you dont get to use peds but i do! TUE'S for life! floyd is such a nice guy he pays usada ten times the normal amount and doesnt expect anything in return! he was obviously a completely different fighter with those conditions. its like saying the houston astros weren't cheaters even though they knew every pitch that was coming. a farce of a fight and nothing more

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          • famicommander
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            #55
            He already had wins over Carlos Baldomir, Kermit Cintron, Shane Mosley, Austin Trout, Lovemore N'dou, and Miguel Vázquez. That's six current, future, or past world champions on his resume plus six title defenses, the Ring belt, one unification fight, and 43 fights under his belt.

            That's more than most guys do in a whole career. He wasn't green. He just got smoked. Accept it.

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            • daggum
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              #56
              Originally posted by famicommander
              He already had wins over Carlos Baldomir, Kermit Cintron, Shane Mosley, Austin Trout, Lovemore N'dou, and Miguel Vázquez. That's six current, future, or past world champions on his resume plus six title defenses, the Ring belt, one unification fight, and 43 fights under his belt.

              That's more than most guys do in a whole career. He wasn't green. He just got smoked. Accept it.
              all those guys were past it cept for trout and he barely won that one. vasquez lol the lightweight. pathetic even including that one but when you are reaching you are reaching. having one legit fight and barely winning isn't green?

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              • HandsofIron
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                #57
                The catchweight that the Catchweight queen Floyd Mayweather put on Canelo is what ruined the fight mayne.

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                • daggum
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by HandsofIron
                  The catchweight that the Catchweight queen Floyd Mayweather put on Canelo is what ruined the fight mayne.
                  but he only fights guys when they are healthy because he only wants fair fights. he told us that when he was criticizing pac for his catchweights. are you calling floyd a liar?

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                  • Blond Beast
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    yeah but that disregards everything that we now know. we now know that floyd was using usada to prevent his opponents from using roids while floyd himself was using roids while paying off usada. he fought a canelo without roids while he was on roids himself and he fought him at 152 meaning he was weaker than normal. this is the signature win of his career? i mean come on. thats pathetic. this is like saying the houston astros are the best baseball team of all time. no.
                    I don’t know any of this. If u know things I’d love to hear it? What was he taking then? Doses? I should be able to tell who’s on gear better than all these “inexperienced” experts, but honestly I find it very hard to tell. It’s weird. How much gear can all these lighter weights be taking and not blow through the divisions? The stuff isn’t a magic pill of talent or injection of skill. I mean these guys get bone dry and bust front double bicep poses at the weighins, which would show off any gyno. But I’m amazed at how u never see it. Maybe they have their anti estrogens down. But they test for those too. When Fernando Vargas took his shirt off and flexed vs ODLH and was in much better shape than he ever was before I figured he was on something. The biggest tell a guy is on something is them posting a pic of themselves flexing, because they can’t help it. I think people who have never tried it are the ones who promote how great it makes u the most. The stuff is everywhere and costs peanuts. So what is everyone waiting for? I’m not trying to blow u up. I just honestly think it’s very hard to tell in boxing as everyone is trying to keep their weight down. Heavyweights I’m sure it’s more often. I know it’s used. But how does every fan know so much when ex trainers and managers don’t even come out? I know my stuff and I’m not that concerned about it, if that puts it in perspective? Once they called them “PEDS” it was the best promotion they ever could have given them. They are so bad because they work so great said sum guy who never tried them. Only millions at stake here. Saying everyone’s on them doesn’t help either. Eventually we will all have implants in our heads anyway. Guys get drilled in the cup multiple times with no warning or point deduction. Guys sneak in shots to the refs blind side. No one cares. Let’s put things into perspective.

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                      #60
                      Canelo was super green. Not even the superstar he is today.

                      Floyd wanted the fight early cause he knew it would be a good name on his resume eventually, but he also knew he wasn’t seasoned enough to pose a threat.

                      EVEN MOSLEY HIMSELF said Canelo was too young in an interview.

                      If you’re that confident, then let’s have Floyd fight Canelo today. See what the results will be...hahaha.

                      No illegal IV’s tho.
                      And Floyd can’t go home and beat his baby mothers arse because he’s mad when he loses.

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