Originally posted by charlie31
Who should be P4P best Pac or Floyd?
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PAC is the deserving p4p king now.
PBF is a ducker. Any fool who has PBF as his top fighter aint thinking right.
And if you have as your p4p a guy who has fought bums and is a ducker instead of someone who has demolished p4p greats, then there's something terribly wrong with your brains.Comment
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Last I checked p4p was a measure of who is the best boxer assuming a standard weight. Floyd's level of competition recently surely doesn't match Pac's, but his skills are undoubtedly greater. So I have Floyd #1. Whether I like his career strategy is a different story. Pac should be #3 behind Floyd and Winky.Originally posted by JoartCC2PAC is the deserving p4p king now.
PBF is a ducker. Any fool who has PBF as his top fighter aint thinking right.
And if you have as your p4p a guy who has fought bums and is a ducker instead of someone who has demolished p4p greats, then there's something terribly wrong with your brains.Comment
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he didnt fight and beat all the best in every weight class. P4P meant simply if all where the same weight who would win? And it was base don the skill of Sugar Ray Robinson.Originally posted by elgaringoNa I cant agree with this! Sugar Ray Robinson fought and beat the best! Theres no denying that. Morales and Barrers may be a little past their best, but they ARE great fighters. I see were your coming from but the only potential great fighter Mayweather has beaten is Castillo and we all know how close that was. Im not saying he cant beat all the great fighters around. Im just saying he has'nt!Comment
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I agree, personally, I think Floyd and Wright would give it to Pacman, barrera,Morales, Juarez easy if they weighed the same weight. And that is more reason for them to fight and see who skills is better. I dont even really care who wins at this point, I just want to see it.Originally posted by amagninI wouldn't give it to Pac... it's either Floyd or Winky. Sure Floyd hasn't fought the best competition but he is undefeated and has never really been tested even by "good" fighters like Judah. Pac did lose to Morales. But what I really think about is Pac and Floyd at the same weight. I think Floyd beats Pac no matter what weight they fight at from 130 up. I think it is much more questionable who wins a fight between Floyd and Winky at a similar weight.Comment
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Clearly that is the fight for p4p dominance. No real questions or arugments in my mind.Originally posted by cortdawg25I agree, personally, I think Floyd and Wright would give it to Pacman, barrera,Morales, Juarez easy if they weighed the same weight. And that is more reason for them to fight and see who skills is better. I dont even really care who wins at this point, I just want to see it.Comment
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floyd is p4p king. better resume, better record, more versatile, better skills, and IMO better performances in big fights.
not taking anything away from pacman, i think hes p4p #2.Comment
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Are you serious!!! So you think someone that for the majority of his career has taken on mediocre competition should be considered p4p #1 based on the fact that he is the most skilled but doesn't prove it against elite opposition. Your trying to tell me that the fact that Winky has taken on the likes of Vargas,Trinidad, Mosley twice and moved up in weight to take on Taylor and arguably won should not be rated higher. Or Paquiao who has defeated Barerra,taken on Marquez,taking on Erik Morales twice and not only beating him, but knocking him out should be rated higher when he hasn't consistantly fought elite opposition and picked and chose his fights with B and C class fighters with the exception of Corrales and Castillo like 6 yrs ago.Originally posted by Dirt E GomezI never understood what somebody's record, assuming they've proven anything, has to do with p4p status. Like, I seriously don't get it. The origin of p4p status was what fighter would beat who if everything was equal as weight and whatnot. Assuming Floyd's skills don't look diminished or any other fighter begins to look spectacular I don't see how it can change due to opposition.Comment
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You seriously think he has a better resume than Winky and Paquiao. That is a ridiculous statement.Originally posted by TheEvilSaintfloyd is p4p king. better resume, better record, more versatile, better skills, and IMO better performances in big fights.
not taking anything away from pacman, i think hes p4p #2.Comment
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