Who should be P4P best Pac or Floyd?

[amagnin]

And crowd reaction should by no means be how fights are scored. Fans cheer for whoever won the last round regardless of who is winning the fight. And its not like the fight was in Dominican Republic, it was in San Francisco.

[VERDUGO]

And crowd reaction should by no means be how fights are scored. Fans cheer for whoever won the last round regardless of who is winning the fight. And its not like the fight was in Dominican Republic, it was in San Francisco.

How did you score it?
or How did Sanchez got penalized?
Be honest .
Have you seen the fight?

Anyone who saw that fight, wether your a Pacfan or Pachater knows that PAc should've won that fight or Sanchez' dirty ass shoul've been DQ'ed.

[elgaringo]

If Floyd can beat King Kong more convincingly than Pac did, then he deserves #1. I doubt it though, PBF won't even get past Donkey Kong IMO. Thoughts?

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[yrrej]

Pac because he fights more and better opponents.....

[amagnin]

How did you score it?
or How did Sanchez got penalized?
Be honest .
Have you seen the fight?

Anyone who saw that fight, wether your a Pacfan or Pachater knows that PAc should've won that fight or Sanchez' dirty ass shoul've been DQ'ed.

I had the fight scored 4-2 Pac but Pac winning more easily because of the deductions. But I wasn't the judge scoring the fight so what does it matter what I thought happened. The fact is that it was ruled a draw and Guzman KO'd Sanchez in the next fight. Sanchez could have fought dirty against Guzman but he didn't or it didn't affect Guzman (this fight I did not see). On the other hand, I don't think the fight was scored a draw because the judges don't like Pac or something. Floyd's closest fight was against Castillo and it was ruled a win. Sure I might have thought Castillo won but it was ruled a victory for Floyd. Floyd's record is still unblemished while Pac has a few blemishes. Factor out that draw and he still lost to Morales in the 1st fight and couldn't beat JMM even though he floored him 3 times in the first round (and yes this was another badly scored fight but Pac should have KO'd him in the 1st or 2nd and the fight wouldn't have gone to the cards).

[amagnin]

Also think about what a fight would look like between a prime Floyd at 130 and a prime Pac. Floyd wins easily imo. He wouldn't let Manny land the big left hand and if you saw the JMM fight you know Manny has problems when you take away his big weapon. Floyd is simply a much more diversified boxer so I give him or Winky the p4p crown.

[Bogler]

Also think about what a fight would look like between a prime Floyd at 130 and a prime Pac. Floyd wins easily imo. He wouldn't let Manny land the big left hand and if you saw the JMM fight you know Manny has problems when you take away his big weapon. Floyd is simply a much more diversified boxer so I give him or Winky the p4p crown.

the point is, you're trying to bring down one fighter's accomplishments to prove another fighter is better. why not explain your p4p list by merits? why pull others down? this p4p is all opinion and imaginary as the fights won't happen. why belittle pac's achievements? can you name anyone else in that weight class who could have done what he did?

[Southpaw16]

Personally, I have Wright on my P4P list ahead of Pac, Pac is third.

[amagnin]

the point is, you're trying to bring down one fighter's accomplishments to prove another fighter is better. why not explain your p4p list by merits? why pull others down? this p4p is all opinion and imaginary as the fights won't happen. why belittle pac's achievements? can you name anyone else in that weight class who could have done what he did?

You missed my initial posts in which I broke down Floyd's accomplishments. But that wasn't good enough for some people and they decided to try and belittle what Floyd did recently. So I just wanted to point out that Pac hasn't fought the best competition either in the last few years. Plus one of my points for having Floyd ahead is that Floyd never lost, Pac has lost and had a draw. And yes, imo Floyd was much more impressive at that weight. No doubt Corrales and Castillo are a slight step below Morales and Barerra career wise, but imo, Castillo and Corrales were fighting better at the time Floyd beat them as compared to when Pac beat Barerra and Morales. Don't get me wrong I love Pac and have him rated #3 in my p4p rankings. I just think people bash Floyd too much without turning that same lens to other fighters.

[JoartCC2]

Last I checked p4p was a measure of who is the best boxer assuming a standard weight. Floyd's level of competition recently surely doesn't match Pac's, but his skills are undoubtedly greater. So I have Floyd #1. Whether I like his career strategy is a different story. Pac should be #3 behind Floyd and Winky.

Are you as fool or not kid.

If you wanna base p4p on mere skill. Then let's use a little common sense. Something you clearly don't have.

How can you test the level of your skill if you can't test it on p4p greats. Who has PBF faced that is worthy of mention as of late.

NONE.

He ducked Marga, and if you're still in denial that he didn't you better rattle your brains.

And now PBF is fighting another bum in Baldo. Yuck! What has gotten into you. Following your logic, then p4p is nothing more than a crap ****tard barometer of who's got the moves.

Using a lil common sense.

Skill is most proven if you go up against p4p greats and beat them so bad, they become chickens after the fight. Take a look at how bad Barrera became one. After a "green" PAC beat him up, he never wanted to face PAC again and with good reason.

PBF is a ducker.

p4p is based on the level of skill, but skill isn't tested when you go up against bums. Something PBF has been doing the last couple of years. Skill is proven against top level competition and not against bums.

Now if you still can't understand the meaning of that lil common sense. Then you're a hopeless case.