GGG sends DAZN letter to enforce contract. Canelo lawyers up

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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #81
    Originally posted by DARTH SILKWORMS
    Wouldn't the same have applied to Wilder? Only got paid the 80 million if he fought Joshua twice, but there was no way DAZN could force Joshua to fight him?

    This Canelo situation makes it more understandable of why Wilder didn't want to sign a long term DAZN deal and only wanted to sign for a Joshua fight.
    Long term? A 3 fight deal. The first being a fight he had to fight anyway. Where he would have been paid 20 mil for Breazeale. If the Joshua fight didn't happen after then he wouldn't be tied to DAZN because they failed to get Joshua. Try and twist it as much as you want with hindsight excuses. That was a pure duck from Wilder at the time.

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    • DARTH SILKWORMS
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      #82
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
      If the Joshua fight didn't happen after then he wouldn't be tied to DAZN because they failed to get Joshua.
      How do you know that? Canelo is refusing to fight GGG, but GGG is still tied to DAZN.

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        #83
        Originally posted by DARTH SILKWORMS
        How do you know that? Canelo is refusing to fight GGG, but GGG is still tied to DAZN.
        Because the exact fights were laid out and in order in the contract. If they didn't deliver Joshua the contract wouldn't be valid, they'd have no rights to Wilder. We don't know how the Golovkin contract is laid out. If it says 6 fights and 1 will be Canelo then Golovkin will be tied up until at least the 5th fight.

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        • Motorcity Cobra
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          #84
          DAZN is in deeper trouble than I originally thought if they're depending on one fight to carry their app. Say they fight a 3rd time. And then what happens after? Do they fight again? Do they keep fighting each other until their contract runs out?

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            #85
            Originally posted by KTFOKING
            The thing is, DAZN knows they can't force Canelo to fight anyone. That is not legal. They signed the agreement through GBP. I don't see any legal way GBP can force Canelo to the trilogy here. Simply put, they just thought they would be able to convince Canelo to take this fight and it backfired. GBP were desperate and needed this to probably get their own deal so they went for it despite Canelo telling them not to do it.
            You don't really know that though do you. If Canelo signed a contract with GBP that they are his authorised agents and can sign contracts on his behalf and unknown to him they went ahead and did that, then yeah it is legal and he would be in breach of his GBP contract if he doesn't fulfill his obligations, so they can't make him take the fight, they could potentionally stop him having other fights or sue.

            Thing is it would be pretty ****** for GBP to do that as it would kill their relationship with the biggest name in boxing.

            GBP seem to have done something to upset him though.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Rip Chudd
              Never understood why Canelo resigned with GB. He's already an established name. This is about to suck if it keeps him out of the ring
              Key man clauses are beautiful things, tbh; Schaefer peeped him on game, so hopefully Oscar didn't trick him out of his position with some nonsense.

              Adjudicate the matter, potentially pay Oscar whatever the out is on his deal, and move on with the rest of his career.

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              • DARTH SILKWORMS
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                #87
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                Because the exact fights were laid out and in order in the contract. If they didn't deliver Joshua the contract wouldn't be valid, they'd have no rights to Wilder.
                When did you see the contract?

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by KTFOKING
                  Gabe did a good job putting all this together. I mean most of the stuff we already knew, but I'm curious at how DAZN was able to promise GGG a fight with Canelo? I know GBP and DAZN had their own written agreement, but what was put in GGG's contract to guarantee him a shot with Canelo? Can you even do that?

                  Coppinger did mention that DAZN was upset that DLH doesn't even show up to his own shows and hardly promotes on social media, but looks like Canelo is also upset at DLH no showing on some of his past pressers. I remember DLH not even showing up for the Mayweather fight but he may have been in rehab during that time.

                  If it will be a 20-30M buyout as estimated in that article, then Canelo should probably go ahead and do that. With the deal he has, he would have paid GBP more than that anyways. Replace the Reynosa's with a legitimate manager and go solo. Canelo doesn't need a promoter anymore. Heck, get your own stable of fighters.

                  Gabe mentioned he's not sure why Diaz has been so involved. But Pugmire specifically mentioned that Canelo has directly dealing with Diaz instead of Gomez/DLH as of late. Well, now it looks like Canelo is even upset at the one guy he was still communicating with at GBP lol.
                  Pretty sure the Reynoso's aren't going anywhere, but he definitely needs to have a lawyer/adviser running his events for him.

                  In a perfect world, Alvarez would go home and find his own Richard Schaefer; respected lawyer/advisor, who could talk great in both English and Spanish, whom the players can come to respect in working on Alvarez's behalf.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by DARTH SILKWORMS
                    When did you see the contract?
                    Everyone was told what the offers were. Try a new lame comeback, that one's played out.

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                      #90
                      ... Canelo is playing ******, tbh:

                      2019-01-30
                      De La Hoya: Canelo Will KO GGG In Trilogy
                      While it is Daniel Jacobs up next for his fighter, Golden Boy Promotions CEO Oscar De La Hoya has confirmed that a fight between Canelo Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin will happen, and that Alvarez won’t need the judges.
                      “There’s no doubt whatsoever,” De La Hoya said of a trilogy between the two middleweights.
                      “Canelo wants to fight the very best, and I can assure you that, third time around, Canelo will knock him out.

                      ODLH: “I sent out a tweet that said we were going to talk to GGG and make the third fight happen and Jacobs’ promoter, Matchroom Boxing, called [Golden Boy president] Eric Gomez the next day and said you have a fight with Jacobs.
                      “My plan worked – now we have one of the best middleweights fights in recent years.”

                      Oscar De La Hoya has confirmed that a fight between Canelo Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin will happen, and that Alvarez won’t need the judges.

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