New rankings according to TBRB

[Toffee]

Don't give me Fury as some great accomplishment for Wilder. He didn't beat him, and most thought he was lucky to come away with a draw. TBRB have ranked fighters (which is what we're talking about here) based on Fury win - so it doesn't add to Wilder's resume for the purposes of this discussion.

So it all comes down to how you rated Ortiz or Joshua at the time they fought Wilder and Ruiz.

You might have some support on here for your view of Ortiz, but the vast majority, including every non-belt ranking body saw Joshua as the higher ranked fighter.

I think Wilder needs a better win than Ortiz on his resume to be ranked one.

Especially when there's a multiple belt holder who just beat an undefeated, number one ranked, unified champion.

[jas]

More evidence that boxing writers havent got a clue

[REDEEMER]

Ortiz is notable because Wilder's the only one who was ever willing to fight him.

If you think the undefeated southpaw with Cuban boxing skills and power was a bullshxt win then I don't know what to say to you.

I absolutely think Ortiz on the night he fought Wilder was a better opponent than anybody else other than Wilder & Fury ever had when they fought each other.

AJ fought dudes who were never as tough of a fight as Ortiz was.

Klitschko would've lost to Ortiz if he fought him instead of Fury. Bryant Jennings gave Wlad a hard time, FFS.

Joseph Parker (who beat Ruiz), past prime Povetkin, a green Dillian Whyte, Charles Martin, Breazeale, and none of those other dudes are not as good as Ortiz was, which is why most of them were shephereded away from him.

Wilder having Ortiz & Fury on his record is the best possible resume without having Joshua on it to me.

None of those other guys would beat them to me.

Ruiz lost to a guy who would lost to both of them easily and even lost to Joshua easily.

Like I said, Joshua wasn't good enough to justify a jump like that.

Fury & Wilder are 1A & 1B and virtually everyone knows it, including them, who constantly say it about each other.

Klitschko and Povetkin beat Ortiz . Fury has no title defenses so one loss doesn't mean Joshua wont defeat wilder and Fury, boxing has never worked like that and never will .Ha

[champion4ever]

I prefer ESPNs list over the TBRB.

[REDEEMER]

People are just mad because Ruiz took the consensus number one heavyweight down for now ,so the rankings are as fair as you will see and as unbiased as you get. I think I would rank them very close based on official rankings. I don't think Ruiz really is number 1 but he takes the spot for now , it is what it is.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

same ranking as I have it.

[buddyguns]

TBRB took their recognition off Fury when he vacated his remaining WBA, WBO, and IBO belts to focus on his mental health and substance abuse problems. It was weird because you can't vacate a lineal title. You either lose it in the ring, move to another weight class, or retire. Fury didn't do any of that. He is a drug cheat, but that was for his fight against Hammer. He didn't test positive for PEDs for the Klitschko fight.

Fury retired in July of 2017.

[Pigeons]

Fury retired in July of 2017.

Via cryptic Instagram message?

[Toffee]

Via cryptic Instagram message?

His October one wasn't so cryptic...

"Boxing is the saddest thing I ever took part in, all a pile of ****, I'm the greatest, & I'm also retired, so go suck a ****, happy days.😀😀😀"

[Pigeons]

His October one wasn't so cryptic...

"Boxing is the saddest thing I ever took part in, all a pile of ****, I'm the greatest, & I'm also retired, so go suck a ****, happy days.😀😀😀"

“Hahahaha u think you will get rid of the GYPSYKING that easy!!! I’m here to stay. #TheGreatest just shows u what the Medea (sic) are like. Tut tut.

“Soon as I get better I’ll be defending what’s mine the heavyweight thrown.”