New rankings according to TBRB

[New England]

Tyson Fury is the lineal heavyweight champion.

tyson fury didn't fight for damn near 3 years because he was suspended for drugs. either that or he retired. either way, he was not the lineal champion when he came back unless you completely discount a suspension literally for anabolic steroids .

[Pantera_]

Can't argue with that. Real Deal Ruiz is the new Kingpin.

[Pigeons]

tyson fury didn't fight for damn near 3 years because he was suspended for drugs. either that or he retired. either way, he was not the lineal champion when he came back unless you completely discount a suspension literally for anabolic steroids .

It's easy to disregard because he didn't test positive for his lineal title victory or afterwards. He tested positive for the fight before against Hammer.

[j0zef]

Ruiz shouldn't get #1 spot, especially since he lost to Parker already. It should be Wilder/Fury, then Ruiz, then AJ.

[New England]

It's easy to disregard because he didn't test positive for his lineal title victory or afterwards. He tested positive for the fight before against Hammer.

he should have never been allowed to fight klitschko in the first place. that's a failure of UKAD and the BBBoC.

it's just a fact, regardless of how he got there, that the guy didn't fight for damn near three years. not only that, during that period he was unfit to fight. couldn't get through training camp and was 400 lbs according to numerous people! that was not the lineal HW champion of the world, it was a retired fighter who came back.

Lennox lewis could come back tomorrow and be HW champion of the world according to that logic. otherwise it becomes a "slippery slope" argument regarding when you think a "long enough" retirement constitutes vacant lineage. ring magazine used to give fighters benefit of the doubt if there were promotional issues, injuries etc, but otherwise they would require fighters to fight once a year.

this idea goes all the way back to 1922, when newspapers and reporters were the watchdogs of boxing, responsible even for scoring in the newspaper decision era. ring magazine created a belt to essentially validate the idea of "lineage," "or the guy who beat the guy," and they would strip fighters when they moved up in weight, didn't take a fight for 12-18 months without justification, or retired. in fury's case he did both, and you can add in a suspension for drugs the drugs.

[Toffee]

“Hahahaha u think you will get rid of the GYPSYKING that easy!!! I’m here to stay. #TheGreatest just shows u what the Medea (sic) are like. Tut tut.

“Soon as I get better I’ll be defending what’s mine the heavyweight thrown.”

That was after his other retirement. He retired twice.

[The D3vil]

Klitschko and Povetkin beat Ortiz . Fury has no title defenses so one loss doesn't mean Joshua wont defeat wilder and Fury, boxing has never worked like that and never will .Ha

Uh-oh, somebody DKSAB

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[Pigeons]

That was after his other retirement. He retired twice.

No that was his first 'retirement'. It was exclusive to Twitter and lasted 30 minutes. His second 'retirement' was a cryptic IG message. All in all, he never retired.

[paulf]

TBRB took their recognition off Fury when he vacated his remaining WBA, WBO, and IBO belts to focus on his mental health and substance abuse problems. It was weird because you can't vacate a lineal title. You either lose it in the ring, move to another weight class, or retire. Fury didn't do any of that. He is a drug cheat, but that was for his fight against Hammer. He didn't test positive for PEDs for the Klitschko fight.

He absolutely did. The questions is, what constitutes a 'legitimate' retirement? Is there such a thing?

He vacated the belts, cancelled his fights and quit the sport once, and announced he was retired twice on Twitter. He changed his mind shortly thereafter both times, but its not a black and white issue as Dan Rafael and others are trying to say.

Boxing is the saddest thing I ever took part in, all a pile of ****, I'm the greatest, & I'm also retired, so go suck a ****, happy days.😀😀😀

— TYSON FURY (@Tyson_Fury) October 3, 2016

[Pigeons]

He absolutely did. The questions is, what constitutes a 'legitimate' retirement? Is there such a thing?

He vacated the belts, cancelled his fights and quit the sport once, and announced he was retired twice on Twitter. He changed his mind shortly thereafter both times, but its not a black and white issue as Dan Rafael and others are trying to say.

Boxing is the saddest thing I ever took part in, all a pile of ****, I'm the greatest, & I'm also retired, so go suck a ****, happy days.😀😀😀
— TYSON FURY (@Tyson_Fury) October 3, 2016

Taking Fury seriously on Twitter is like taking me seriously if I tell you I f**ked your mom.