New rankings according to TBRB

[soul_survivor]

Obviously Andy is one, I ranke dhim the same but aj must be second and whyte ahead of fury.

[Jax teller]

Bullshit! Wilder fought Fury on the rebound because Joshua ducked him to fight Povetkin instead. Those are the facts. Fury wasn't anywhere on Wilder's radar until Fury approached him about a fight. It was Anthony Joshua who Wilder wanted all along but AJ didn't have the balls to do what Fury did and that was to fight him and get in the same ring as the "Bronze Bomber".

LMAO from what you said Fury had done nothing since his self destruction so it was supposed to be a soft touch in Wilders eyes.

Cherry pick gone wrong.

[bigjavi973]

Rank Name Record - W-L-D (KO) Nationality Last Week
TBRB Champion OPEN - - -
1 Andy Ruiz Jr. 33-1-0 (22) USA --
2 Tyson Fury 27-0-1 (19) ENG 2
3 Deontay Wilder 41-0-1 (40) USA 3
4 Anthony Joshua 22-1-0 (21) ENG 1
5 Dillian Whyte 25-1-0 (18) ENG 4
6 Luis Ortiz 31-1-0 (26) CUB 5
7 Alexander Povetkin 34-2-0 (24) RUS 6
8 Kubrat Pulev 27-1-0 (14) BUL 7
9 Joseph Parker 25-2-0 (19) NZ 8
10 Adam Kownacki 19-0-0 (15) POL 9

idk imo they lost credibility with me once they moved up a fighter after a draw (tyson-wilder).....

idc what you thought personally who won... the outcome was a draw and the rankings should reflect that (meaning they shoulda stayed where they were at before and not move tyson up the latter)

just my opinion tho

[bigjavi973]

TBRB is very credible. I believe they Fury was "stripped" because he was banned for 2 years that is why he isn't listed as champion despite being the lineal champ in theory.

Ruiz should be the #1 contender to the lineal title as WBA/IBF/WBO hwt champ. Wilder #2 as the WBC champ. Fury #3 and AJ #4 and Ortiz #5. I have no problem with Fury being #2 since I had him winning the Wilder fight.

nah they actually stripped him of it once he "retired"..... at least that's what trbr had said before.

[bigjavi973]

Yup, and that doesn't change whether he's Ranked #1 or not.

but but but

according to that juggernaut dude that can't throw a left hook without jumping.....

said that you MUST have a belt to defend in order to be lineal

no belt = not lineal

[bigjavi973]

guys......


lets make our own NSB rankings for heavyweight


who's down?

we can keep discussing it here on how it will work...

when the rankings should be updated etc.

our rankings should be simple.... you win... you move up




so top 10 or top 20?

[QueensburyRules]

Fury hasn't been lineal on any ratings for 2 years. He got banned for using steroids you know.

- -Botched drug testing and mishandling by BBbc.

Andy beat the man #1 and AJ#2 fighting the man who beat the man in their rematch. AJ aleady beat the rest or made them duck, so Andy the only man to answer the call, so the chaff can go diddle themselves for the scraps.

[The D3vil]

Anyone can choose to be undefeated. It's easy. You pick guys who can't beat you.

To top the rankings you have to beat someone. To be their champion you have to beat another champion contender.

Ruiz beat AJ. His best win was a couple of weeks ago and came against a guy who was ranked 1 after beating Klitschko, Parker (ranked 3), Povetkin (ranked 3).

Wilder has beaten one guy of note. Luis Ortiz. Luis Ortiz has beaten no-one of note. In their book he then lost to a comeback Fury.

Fury meanwhile has beaten Klitschko. It was years ago and he popped plus retired afterwards but he still did it. TBRB are also treating his fight against Wilder as a win. Feel free to disagree but that's what they've done.

The rankings make sense. You can't make any case for Wilder being number 1 until he actually beats someone of note, like Ruiz did.

No anyone can not choose to be undefeated.

Unless you're Floyd Mayweather or somebody who can basically call their own shots, you mostly fight who's in front of you.

Wilder's fought Stiverne, who was a heavyweight champ 2 times, Fury, and knocked out Ortiz, the boogie man of the division.

Ortiz is better than Joseph Parker, who Ruiz lost to, which is why AJ couldn't wait to fight Parker, but wanted nothing to do with King Kong.

Wilder also drew with Fury, the other guy who could justifiably be called no.1 in the rankings.

You can't criticize Wilder's record and then big up Ruiz, who had an even weaker opponent list than his and lost to a guy who's not even in the same class as Joshua, who Ruiz beat.

One victory alone shouldn't get you to the top of the list.

That's be like putting Buster Douglas as the top heavyweight after he beat Tyson.

You can't go from nobody to the top of the heap.

[Toffee]

No anyone can not choose to be undefeated.

Unless you're Floyd Mayweather or somebody who can basically call their own shots, you mostly fight who's in front of you.

Wilder's fought Stiverne, who was a heavyweight champ 2 times, Fury, and knocked out Ortiz, the boogie man of the division.

Ortiz is better than Joseph Parker, who Ruiz lost to, which is why AJ couldn't wait to fight Parker, but wanted nothing to do with King Kong.

Wilder also drew with Fury, the other guy who could justifiably be called no.1 in the rankings.

You can't criticize Wilder's record and then big up Ruiz, who had an even weaker opponent list than his and lost to a guy who's not even in the same class as Joshua, who Ruiz beat.

One victory alone shouldn't get you to the top of the list.

That's be like putting Buster Douglas as the top heavyweight after he beat Tyson.

You can't go from nobody to the top of the heap.

Hang on, you think I'm criticising Wilder but bigging up Ruiz.

Then you say one notable win doesn't get you to the top...

..while pushing Stiverne and Ortiz as notable wins?

Wilder has no notable win. At the very best he got a draw with Fury (that's being very generous). That's as good as it gets on his record.

In fact, tell me who in the division does have more than one notable win?

And if you're going to include the likes of Stiverne and Ortiz then the answer will continue to be Joshua! He's the only one to beat multiple top fighters.

[The D3vil]

Hang on, you think I'm criticising Wilder but bigging up Ruiz.

Then you say one notable win doesn't get you to the top...

..while pushing Stiverne and Ortiz as notable wins?

Wilder has no notable win. At the very best he got a draw with Fury (that's being very generous). That's as good as it gets on his record.

In fact, tell me who in the division does have more than one notable win?

And if you're going to include the likes of Stiverne and Ortiz then the answer will continue to be Joshua! He's the only one to beat multiple top fighters.

Ortiz is notable because Wilder's the only one who was ever willing to fight him.

If you think the undefeated southpaw with Cuban boxing skills and power was a bullshxt win then I don't know what to say to you.

I absolutely think Ortiz on the night he fought Wilder was a better opponent than anybody else other than Wilder & Fury ever had when they fought each other.

AJ fought dudes who were never as tough of a fight as Ortiz was.

Klitschko would've lost to Ortiz if he fought him instead of Fury. Bryant Jennings gave Wlad a hard time, FFS.

Joseph Parker (who beat Ruiz), past prime Povetkin, a green Dillian Whyte, Charles Martin, Breazeale, and none of those other dudes are not as good as Ortiz was, which is why most of them were shephereded away from him.

Wilder having Ortiz & Fury on his record is the best possible resume without having Joshua on it to me.

None of those other guys would beat them to me.

Ruiz lost to a guy who would lost to both of them easily and even lost to Joshua easily.

Like I said, Joshua wasn't good enough to justify a jump like that.

Fury & Wilder are 1A & 1B and virtually everyone knows it, including them, who constantly say it about each other.