Can you really consider Pacquiao a 8 division champ when he never........

[mcdonalds]

put it this way brah, when it's all said and done, it will read that manny is an 8x division world champ. if you like it or not. just like how there's robbery in fights where the fans feel the other guy should have won...

but guess what? it doesnt matter because when you look at the record, it'll show that he loss that fight even though fans feel it's a robbery. you get my drift here?

but is that really true when he's never beaten the top guy at lightweight, welterweight and light middleweight?

[IceTrayDaGang]

but is that really true when he's never beaten the top guy at lightweight, welterweight and light middleweight?

but he beat the top heavyweight doe!

[mcdonalds]

but he beat the top heavyweight doe!

stfu

[techliam]

So, can you really consider him a 6 division champ when he's never beaten the top guy at 135, 147 and 154?

He’s beaten the best guy at 147. Bradley 3 was between no.1 and no.2 of the division

[mcdonalds]

He’s beaten the best guy at 147. Bradley 3 was between no.1 and no.2 of the division

Bradley was NEVER #1 at 147. Wtf are you smoking bro?

[techliam]

Bradley was NEVER #1 at 147. Wtf are you smoking bro?

Who said he was number 1? Pacquiao was number 1, Bradley number 2 .. hence Pacquiao won the vacant lineal title by beating Bradley again

[mcdonalds]

Who said he was number 1? Pacquiao was number 1, Bradley number 2 .. hence Pacquiao won the vacant lineal title by beating Bradley again

That doesn't count. Only reason that happened is because TBE retired and vacated his lineal status.

[El Gitano]

Major World Titles:

WBC Flyweight Champion (112 lbs)

IBF Super Bantamweight Champion (122 lbs)

WBC Super Featherweight Champion (130 lbs)

WBC Lightweight Champion (135 lbs)

WBO Welterweight Champion (147 lbs)

WBC Light Middleweight Champion (154 lbs)

(2) WBO Welterweight Champion (147 lbs)



Minor World Titles:

IBO Light Welterweight Champion (140 lbs)



The Ring/Lineal Championship Titles:

Lineal Flyweight Champion (112 lbs)

The Ring Featherweight Champion (126 lbs)

The Ring Super Featherweight Champion (130 lbs)

The Ring Light Welterweight Champion (140 lbs)



Regional/International Titles:

OPBF Flyweight Champion (112 lbs)

WBC International Super Bantamweight Champion (122 lbs)

WBC International Super Featherweight Champion (130 lbs)

WBO International Welterweight Champion (147 lbs)



Special Titles:

WBC Emeritus Super Featherweight Champion (130 lbs)

WBC Diamond Welterweight Champion (147 lbs)

WBO Welterweight Super Champion (147 lbs)



Recognitions:



International:

2000–2009 Boxing Writers Association of America Fighter of the Decade

2000–2009 HBO Fighter of the Decade

2001–2010 World Boxing Council Boxer of the Decade

2001–2010 World Boxing Organization Best Pound-for-Pound Fighter of the Decade

2006, 2008 and 2009 Boxing Writers Association of America's Fighter of the Year

2006, 2008 and 2009 ESPN Fighter of the Year

2006, 2008 and 2009 The Ring Fighter of the Year

2008 Sports Illustrated Boxer of the Year

2008 Yahoo! Sports Fighter of the Year

2008 and 2009 ESPN Star's Champion of Champions

2008 and 2009 World Boxing Council Boxer of the Year

2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 The Ring No.1 Pound-for-Pound (year-end)

2009 Ask Men Most Influential Men (ranked 24th)

2009 ESPN Knockout of the Year (in Round 2 against Ricky Hatton)

2009 and 2011 ESPY Awards Best Fighter

2009 Forbes Magazine World's Highest-Paid Athletes (ranked 6th)

2009 Sports Illustrated Fighter of the Year

2009 The Ring Knockout of the Year (in Round 2 against Ricky Hatton)

2009 TIME 100 Most Influential People (Heroes and Icons Category)

2009, 2010 and 2012 Forbes Magazine Celebrity 100 (The World's Most Powerful Celebrity) (ranked 57th, 55th and 33rd)

2010 World Boxing Organization Fighter of the Year

2010 Yahoo! Sports Boxing's Most Influential (ranked 25th)

2011 Guinness World Records Most boxing world titles in different weight divisions (8 times; since November 13, 2010)

2013 Reader's Digest Asia Pacific Most Trusted Personality

2013 Forbes Magazine World's Highest-Paid Athletes (ranked 14th)

2014 PublicAffairsAsia HP Gold Standard Award for Communicator of the Year



National:

2000–09 Philippine Sportswriters Association Athlete of the Decade

2002, 2003, 2004, 2006 and 2008 PSA Sportsman of the Year

2003 Presidential Medal of Merit

2003 and 2010 Congressional Medal of Achievement / Distinction / Honor

2006 Order of Lakandula with the rank of "Champion for Life" (Kampeon Habambuhay)

2008 Philippine Legion of Honor with the rank of "Officer" (Pinuno)

2008 University Athletic Association of the Philippines (UAAP) Honorary Award for Sports Excellence

2009 Order of Sikatuna with the rank of Datu (Grand Cross with Gold Distinction)

2011 Gabriel "Flash" Elorde Memorial "Quintessential Athlete" Award

You conveniently forgot to include that he was KTFO in Ring Magazines 2012 Fight of the Year.

[techliam]

That doesn't count. Only reason that happened is because TBE retired and vacated his lineal status.

Why doesn’t it count? Because you don’t want it to?

Floyd retired, so the next best 2 fought. There’s literally no validity in an argument saying Pacquiao never beat the best (other than himself) at 147, because he did.

[The Big Dunn]

Bradley was NEVER #1 at 147. Wtf are you smoking bro?

Who said he was number 1? Pacquiao was number 1, Bradley number 2 .. hence Pacquiao won the vacant lineal title by beating Bradley again

Manny absolutely beat Tim when Tim was #2 and Manny was #1. Manny established a new lineage with that win.

The point to be made is even though they were both ranked this way, Floyd was seen as the best WW on the planet despite his retirement.