Can you really consider Pacquiao a 8 division champ when he never........

[diplo]

I doubt every single boxing fan. Every single ***** ass fan though is probably right.

Ah, a wild Margarito fan emerges. Why would anyone not have enjoyed seeing cheating Margarito taking his beatings from Pacman and Cotto?

[techliam]

The problem most people have is Tim got to #2 by being given a gift decision over Manny that many of us saw as a robbery. It was if Arum gerrymandered Tim into being #2 when he wouldn't have been without the terrible scoring from the 1st fight.

Well he also beat Marquez who had just KO’d Manny. But really, he was ranked so highly simply by virtue of the division being so poor after Floyd retired. Lest we forget, it was the sports premier division, and then suddenly tumbled. It hasn’t made that much of a recovery since either.

[Boxingraya]

Ah, a wild Margarito fan emerges. Why would anyone not have enjoyed seeing cheating Margarito taking his beatings from Pacman and Cotto?

Prove to me he cheated.

[diplo]

Prove to me he cheated.

His trainer admitted it. What more do you want. And before you say he admitted it but didn't actually end up having illegal wraps for the Mosley fight because someone spotted it, it's mighty convenient that he would of course deny having ever done it before. Why would he try to cheat for the Mosley fight but not previous fights?

A bit like Jarrell Miller gets caught doping, well, obviously he didn't just start doping for the AJ fight.

[El Gitano]

Cause I copy pasted from a website. Being KOd isnt an accolade. Trying to funny or you just slow?

Being fighter of the year is an accolade but not being in a fight of the year?

[Boxingraya]

His trainer admitted it. What more do you want. And before you say he admitted it but didn't actually end up having illegal wraps for the Mosley fight because someone spotted it, it's mighty convenient that he would of course deny having ever done it before. Why would he try to cheat for the Mosley fight but not previous fights?

A bit like Jarrell Miller gets caught doping, well, obviously he didn't just start doping for the AJ fight.

The trainer didnt admit to cheating. He admitted to using an illegal insert. The reason it was illegal, it was wet. Again, prove to me he CHEATED.

[STREET CLEANER]

The circus fight at 154 shouldn't count. Plus he is an era that there are so many belts for each weight class. At 135 Diaz was the path of least resistance.

[danceswithfire]

well , if this is how we should determine divisional titles then

mikey garcia = 0 division champion


and canelo too woud have 0 title if we dont count those controversial victories and vacant title he won

[diplo]

The trainer didnt admit to cheating. He admitted to using an illegal insert. The reason it was illegal, it was wet. Again, prove to me he CHEATED.

The illegal insert he was trying to wrap into Margarito's hands was confiscated and confirmed as a plaster of paris type substance. You know this is all confirmed don't you. This isn't even speculation.

[Boxingraya]

The illegal insert he was trying to wrap into Margarito's hands was confiscated and confirmed as a plaster of paris type substance. You know this is all confirmed don't you. This isn't even speculation.

It had elements of POP. Hand creams have elements of POP as well. The insert though was deemed illegal because it was wet. That's it. It could have been 100% water and it's still illegal. Now, do you plan on telling me any time soon exactly which fights Tony cheated? So far we know he only may have attempted to cheat.