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  • techliam
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    #51
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    Manny absolutely beat Tim when Tim was #2 and Manny was #1. Manny established a new lineage with that win.

    The point to be made is even though they were both ranked this way, Floyd was seen as the best WW on the planet despite his retirement.
    Yes he was, no doubt. But he was also seen as retired. I never commented on whether or not the division was great. I’m only correcting a factual error, in that Pacquiao has beaten the best in the division. It’s all you can expect from a fighter

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #52
      Originally posted by techliam
      Yes he was, no doubt. But he was also seen as retired. I never commented on whether or not the division was great. I’m only correcting a factual error, in that Pacquiao has beaten the best in the division. It’s all you can expect from a fighter
      The problem most people have is Tim got to #2 by being given a gift decision over Manny that many of us saw as a robbery. It was if Arum gerrymandered Tim into being #2 when he wouldn't have been without the terrible scoring from the 1st fight.

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      • boxinggod101
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        #53
        Originally posted by El Gitano
        You conveniently forgot to include that he was KTFO in Ring Magazines 2012 Fight of the Year.
        So? He was KOd by his biggest rival who is an ATG too. No shame on that. Ali has been KOd too. What were you trying to prove?

        Marquez vs Pacquiao is an ATG rivalery.

        Im not a groupie... I can like Marquez and Floyd cause my favorite fighter is Pacman. Seems like you cant....

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          #54
          Originally posted by mcdonalds
          I'm just asking a simple question. Can you really consider him a 8 division champ when he didn't beat the top guy at 135, 147, and 154??

          I'm consistent. I don't consider Floyd a 5 division champ because he didn't beat the top guy at 140.
          Well yes, of course you can consider him an 8 weight champ, because technically, he has been a world champ in 8 divisions. He was never undisputed or lineal in all those divisions, but that's not really the same.

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            #55
            Originally posted by mcdonalds
            beat the top guy at 135, 147 and 154??

            Hmmm this is interesting
            - -Ronnie Mac, is that really you wrapped in secret sauce?

            As of 2011 Manny had fought , beat, and KOed more Ring ranked p4pers in history. Nobody close, and since he has doubled those numbers. Moreover, he made his divisional debut against 2 #1s that woulda been 3 but for Barrera ducking their rematch that was delayed until later.

            What grade you in now Ronny? Happy Meals?

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            • El Gitano
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              #56
              Originally posted by boxinggod101
              So? He was KOd by his biggest rival who is an ATG too. No shame on that. Ali has been KOd too. What were you trying to prove?

              Marquez vs Pacquiao is an ATG rivalery.

              Im not a groupie... I can like Marquez and Floyd cause my favorite fighter is Pacman. Seems like you cant....

              I'm just saying, you typed up all the accolades he's received throughout his career, why wouldn't you list he was part of the 2012 fight of the year?

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                #57
                Originally posted by El Gitano
                I'm just saying, you typed up all the accolades he's received throughout his career, why wouldn't you list he was part of the 2012 fight of the year?
                Cause I copy pasted from a website. Being KOd isnt an accolade. Trying to funny or you just slow?

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by mcdonalds
                  beat the top guy at 135, 147 and 154??

                  Hmmm this is interesting
                  The Pac vs Margarito fight was one of the worst "championship" fights I can remember. Not for the complete mismatch though. It was the idea that this fight should have a belt on the line, just to be able to call Pac an 8 division champ. A complete farce. Right up there with Floyd vs Conor.

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                  • diplo
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Boxingraya
                    The Pac vs Margarito fight was one of the worst "championship" fights I can remember. Not for the complete mismatch though. It was the idea that this fight should have a belt on the line, just to be able to call Pac an 8 division champ. A complete farce. Right up there with Floyd vs Conor.
                    Well, at least I think I can safely say, every single boxing fan enjoyed Margarito being absolutely battered. And then battered even harder by Cotto in the next fight. So it was worth it for that.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by diplo
                      Well, at least I think I can safely say, every single boxing fan enjoyed Margarito being absolutely battered. And then battered even harder by Cotto in the next fight. So it was worth it for that.
                      I doubt every single boxing fan. Every single ***** ass fan though is probably right.

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