Comments Thread For: De La Hoya To Spence: Be Like Garcia, Move Up To Fight Canelo!

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  • hitking
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    #181
    Originally posted by batista84
    The point I'm trying to make is that Garcia vs Spence was a waste of time and money, I loved those two guys but I knew Spence was gonna obliterate Garcia, Garcia should've looked for that Loma fight and growing in to welterweight before thinking in Spence.

    Canelo vs Spence right now is the same thing, Spence is gonna get beat, why fight now and get washed out when you can wait some time and make for a bigger and a better fight worth everyone's money and time.

    I don't like mismatches I like competitive fights between top boxers and no I don't support fighters avoiding bigger challenges.
    How do you know it’s a mismatch until they actually fight?

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    • whoseyourdaddy
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      #182
      Originally posted by MC Hammer
      Since when is Jacobs a better jabber or more fluid boxer? Spence has a workrate that that unconditioned Canelo will never match. I say the match should happen when Spence grows to 160.
      If Spence is not ready as you claim then he should not be calling Canelo out, simple as that. Other wise he is gonna look foolish.

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      • Hnnnggg
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        #183
        This could be an exciting style matchup but canelo is too big, too strong and too skilled for Spence. Spence should be fighting Crawford, if this ridiculous fight happens Errol would probably move down to 154 after the loss and we’ll never see a unification between the top two prime welters in this decade

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        • whoseyourdaddy
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          #184
          Originally posted by bigdunny1
          Faster on his feet moving around the ring is what I'm talking about. My point is Spence isn't floyd or lara and fights nothing like those guys. If the much longer faster better jabbing Jacobs couldn't outbox canelo Spence for damn sure isn't.



          Yes Spence is stronger then Floyd not sure Lara since Lara is much bigger and dropped and hurt much bigger fighters then Spence. Spence is strong for 147 but we don't even know how that will translate to 154 and and damn sure 160. Mikey Garcia is a massive puncher at 135 at 147 he couldn't hurt Spence and had dramatically less power even at a 140. And Spence is NOT more athletic then Spence. I'll say it again Canelo is more floyd like then Spence is. He is more slick, better defensively and all around skilled.
          Hell even Floyd Sr. Crowned Canelo with the pseudonym the mexican Floyd, and he claims Canelo learn/copy those skills from his son. He has mentioned this in Canelo's last three fights and him and his brother say nobody beats canelo at this point.

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          • Clegg
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            #185
            I feel like you have to either really love (overrate) Spence or really hate Spence to want this fight. DLH just trying to take another company's best fighter in a size mismatch.

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #186
              Originally posted by bigdunny1
              Canelo was what 22 when he fought floyd? Spence is 29 right now and was 27 when he fought Brook. Amateur career, olympics and years fighting in pros and still at 27 is when he finally faced his first real challenge...a damaged goods Brook coming off a destruction of GGG. Yup same thing as Canelo who had NO amateur career learned to fight on the job in the pros. Didn't move to the US and start fighting real prospect level opponents until he was 19. And in like 3 years time fought floyd mayweather the number 1 p4P fighter in the world and maybe the greatest fighter of the last 3 decades and was a underdog not a big favorite like Spence was against Brook. yup the same damn thing. No difference in opponent or how much experience Spence had by the time he fought damage goods Brook. Lord you idiots around here.

              Canelo's first 35 fights all in hole in wall fights in Mexican as a teenager against similar level opponents that most American boxers are facing in amateurs with head gear on. Canelo despite no amatuer or oympics experience was fighting quality of opponents Spence is now fighting at age 29 when he was 21 years old. At 29 Spence has yet to even fight even 1 elite welterweight yet. It's a joke to even compare the work Canelo put in to get where he is at compared to Spence who's even older and his best name is Mikey who he dragged up 2 weight classes and hasnt yet faced the top guys in his own weight class. Canelo has cleaned out Middleweight and that's 1 of 3 weight classes he's been world champ at. How many losses would Spence have already if he fought Floyd and all the elite fighters Canelo has already faced? Let alone if he fought Floyd at the age Canelo did. Canelo should only fight guys like Bundu at age 27 just to stay undefeated like Spence right? lol
              You are correct but not intellectually honest.

              Canelo didn't get those fights because he was braver or more willing to fight challengers, he got those fights because he has a huge fanbase and generates revenue. When you generate revenue you get better fighters to fight you because the sales you generate can pay them more.

              Added to that, names will not fight high risk/no reward opponents when they have name guys who will help drive sales available. They will however jump to fight guys that generate revenue.

              It's why ODH fought Vargas early and waited so long to fight Floyd.

              Give Canelo absolute credit for his resume, but understand why Spence doesn't have the same level of opponent rushing to fight him.

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              • whoseyourdaddy
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                #187
                Originally posted by MDPopescu
                ... in six years from now Canelo will be like 34 yo -- and, from what I've noticed, Mexicans don't last on top of the sport in their 30's... (see Chávez Sr, ODLH, JMM ...)
                You do realize Marquez fought till he was 42 right?

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                • whoseyourdaddy
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                  #188
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  Well if he was ****** enough to reveal his gameplan on 40 days, no wonder Canelo looked so good. LOL. I saw him switch earlier than that. I didn't watch 40 days so as I watched I couldn't understand what the f-ck the gameplan was.

                  Floyd has much faster hands than Canelo, as does Spence. That might allow him to land at a more accurate rate. I agree with you about Canelo being hard to hit but the guys we are discussing all have slower hand speed, except Floyd.

                  As for footwork, I think Spence is faster than all but Lara and Floyd, we agree. My point is those are the 2 fights he consensus lost. If Spence footwork is faster than all the other guys except these 2 (which I think so) then he has a solid chance to win.

                  If you are correct about the athleticism and footwork, well then Canelo is going to win 9 or 10 rounds easily.
                  HAHAHAHA ¿¿¿Really??? LMAO thanks for the good laugh bro.

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                  • pugil1st
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by hitking
                    What work is there to be done?Fight Porter, who was clearly beaten by a guy that he stopped and looked like crap in his last fight against a bum? Continue chasing Thurman, who doesn’t wanna fight him, and who also looked like crap in his last fight against a bum? You must be talking about Manny, who’s 87577838yrs old. Oh I know, he needs to sit and wait for a Crawford fights that’s never gonna happened until eithers current promotional contracts are up. GTFO here. There’s nothing wasted time of his prime years at the WW division. Time to move on.
                    His motto is “It’s strap season”. Just like Canelo he wants the belts. It doesn’t matter what fighters looked like their last outing. I believe the Crawford fight will happen, just like May/Pac and Canelo/GGG.
                    Last edited by pugil1st; 05-08-2019, 11:08 AM.

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                    • Boxing Scene
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                      #190
                      Well at least Spence didn't cheat to beat anyone unlike meat boy Canelo who has to have every advantage in order to win. Rehydration clauses, PEDS, marinating, judges, catch weights, redballs does it all.

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