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  • Originally posted by batista84 View Post
    In all honesty I don't think they should fight now, Spence should get more experience and bigger to make it a compelling fight.

    Spence still has to unify WW and have a run a Sww.

    Canelo still has to unify MW and have a run at SMW.

    If both guys keep winning I see this as a future superfight, but right now is a no go from my part.
    It amazes me how many so called boxing fans would rather see top P4P guys fight inferior competition in their home divisions. Instead of seeking out other top P4P guys at or around their home division in order to make the big superfights happen. All these belts and unification garbage is making people ******.

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    • Originally posted by bballchump11 View Post
      Yes that's why Arum, Hearn and Oscar are begging to sign him.
      Lets not forget that Spence started the Canelo named calling prior to Garcia's fight. there is at least 3 videos of him calling out Canelo, and saying he would go to 160 to fight him. Canelo did not call him out. it sounds to me that Spence is piggy back riding of the biggest name in boxing right now. pretending he wants the fight but he does not really.

      Am pretty sure when is close for Spence to fight again he is gonna piggy back ride of the face of boxing name to hype up his up coming matchup with Porter. mark my words.

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      • Originally posted by BigStomps View Post
        LoL, you really don't know shet about boxing!
        Before the Jacob's fight I had Crawford, Loma, then Canelo on the P4P list. But after Canelo beat Jacob's then Canelo is #1!
        Jacob's is a way better victory for Canelo than any win Crawford or Loma have and if you can't see that then you're either hating or you a ****** dumb motherfuccer who don't know shet about boxing!
        So you tell me which one are you???
        LMAO, this is easy!
        Loma has beaten Gary Russell Jr, Nicholas Walters and Guillermo Rigondeaux - all of which were undefeated and not on the decline like Jacobs when he fought them.
        Crawford cleaned out the 140lb division and is now making noise at 147.
        How's Clen-elo beating Jacobs better than all that? I'll wait, you so-called boxing expert... 😂😂😂

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        • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
          Well if he was ****** enough to reveal his gameplan on 40 days, no wonder Canelo looked so good. LOL. I saw him switch earlier than that. I didn't watch 40 days so as I watched I couldn't understand what the f-ck the gameplan was.

          Floyd has much faster hands than Canelo, as does Spence. That might allow him to land at a more accurate rate. I agree with you about Canelo being hard to hit but the guys we are discussing all have slower hand speed, except Floyd.

          As for footwork, I think Spence is faster than all but Lara and Floyd, we agree. My point is those are the 2 fights he consensus lost. If Spence footwork is faster than all the other guys except these 2 (which I think so) then he has a solid chance to win.

          If you are correct about the athleticism and footwork, well then Canelo is going to win 9 or 10 rounds easily.
          yeah 40 Days made it clear that Jacobs was trying to outbox and outwork Canelo all night and fought like that and it was foolish it never worked for Mr I have Plan A, B, C, D to beat Canelo.

          I strongly disagree that Spence has faster hands then Canelo. Spence game isn't based on speed anyway. Canelo has fought many guys with fast hands none land on him consistently or cleanly. What caused Canelo biggest problems with Floyd was not hand speed it's what everyone struggles with Floyd cracking his defense. That's why other then Floyd NOBODY lands a lot of punches especially clean punches on Canelo. Spence hand speed isn't that great and I definitely think Canelo's is better but the point is Spence doesn't have one of the best defenses maybe ever he doesn't even have above average defense in his weight class.

          If it wasn't clear by now the jacobs should be the last bit of evidence that you not outboxing canelo he is too quick, too slick and too smart. He has evolved into a total well rounded IQ master in that ring. Just like with Floyd the guys who came closet to beating him didn't try to outbox out think him. The guys who came close just brawled, using illegal tactics if needed to try and rough him up take the boxing and skill aspect out of the equation. The fighters who tried to move and box with him all failed. With Canelo he is now at his peak and I've seen enough top elite fighters take that approach and all fail the fighter who will beat Canelo will brawl and try and rough him up but it comes at a high risk of you getting knocked the phuk out trying.

          (because there is no other floyd and Canelo is better when he fought floyd)

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          • Originally posted by REYESdelBOXEO View Post
            #1 P4P CANELO got Spence shook , running for his life , scared to death.

            "Mr. Man down" , Man Up Sucka.

            You called out CANELO , ducked him, then fought a lightweight. You ain't no Killa!

            CANELO is Spence's boogeyman😱

            CANELO vs Spence @ 160 NEXT , at Cowboy's Stadium, Let's Go!

            Boxing fan's got the message, Spence vs. Thurman or Crawford will never happen. It's ok we're over it, move on to bigger & better things.

            Spence is gettin Khaned/Kirklaned/Baldomired Knock Out of The Year!

            Too bad he's terrified , he ain't built like Mikey Garcia , Mikey's a rare breed , cut from a different cloth.
            Mikey is somewhat dumb, for taking a fight he had no business taking that's my opinion.

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            • Originally posted by bori84 View Post
              Do a little research and realize that Spence spars against bigger and stronger fighters than Clen-elo - just ask the Charlo brothers. He showed his boxing skills against Garcia and at 160, he'd only be stronger than before.

              Clen-elo isn't ready for that fire, with or without the PED's!

              IF the fight ever happens, come back here so I can tell you all I told you so. Clen-elo didn't beat GGG and he's not beating a young, fast and stronger boxer that's actually taller and has more reach than him. Someone who actually comes to fight, not someone on the decline like Jacobs.


              Here we go, time for the so-called experts to tell me how great Clen-elo is, even though he cheated, got gift decisions against GGG (even though GGG was already on the decline as well). Good for him, he did what Mayweather did to Pacquiao and waited until he slowed down.. The difference is Mayweather actually beat Pacquiao 😂😂😂 (albeit in a boring ass fight, but that's beside the point); Clen-elo cheated and still didn't win .

              GN, I'm sure I'll get under all the Clen-elo's fans skin cause I am speaking nothing but #TheTruth!
              Things PutisimoRicans said you still butthurt because canelo beat the shït out of Cotto so obvious your salty attitude towards Canelo, you lose all credibility predicting crap like this. Spence is my boy and fellow Texan but he got nothing on Canelo.

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              • Originally posted by bori84 View Post
                Glad you brought that up because I love that Clen-elo fans like to make excuses as to why Mayweather completely dominated him. "Oh, he was too green" Clen-elo already had 40+ fights when they fought, Spence had half that many when he fought Brook, yet he still won; Clen-elo didn't.
                Oh, did you forget how A Meer Con was tagging Clen-elo until he got caught too? You know, a guy that's even smaller than Spence and Brook?
                Wrong guy you clown! Canelo got schooled by Floyd. Age don't matter.
                I've Never made excuses for Canelo's loss!

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                • Originally posted by bori84 View Post
                  LMAO, this is easy!
                  Loma has beaten Gary Russell Jr, Nicholas Walters and Guillermo Rigondeaux - all of which were undefeated and not on the decline like Jacobs when he fought them.
                  Crawford cleaned out the 140lb division and is now making noise at 147.
                  How's Clen-elo beating Jacobs better than all that? I'll wait, you so-called boxing expert... 😂😂😂
                  Who has Gary Russell beaten that makes him such a great win? Who has Walters beaten that makes him such a great win? Donaire, who was fighting two divisions above what was his natural weight? Rigondeaux is a great fighter and I love fighters moving up and daring to be great. But the big guy doesn’t get major props for beating the little guy. He’s kinda supposed to do it.

                  Crawford’s best win is over a blown up featherweight. I actually consider Crawford the P4P #1. But “cleaned out 140?” He fought Delorme, Lundy, Jean, Postol, Molina Diaz, and Indongo. Not exactly a murderers row.

                  On the flip side. Canelo cleaned out 154 against the likes of Trout, Lara, Cotto, Kirkland, and even Angulo. He’s beaten GGG and Jacobs at MW. And his lone loss is to Floyd. Lomachencko’s loss is to Orlando Salido. I’m not gonn pretend Canelo is as skilled as Crawford or Lomachencko. But his resume is worlds better than both.

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                  • Originally posted by g27region View Post
                    Calling out much smaller guys (I mean 2 divisions smaller than you) is some sucker *****. e.g De La Hoya calling out Spence, Ward calling out Golovkin. It's like asking for easy money. Spence/Garcia and Loma/Rigo were fine with me since in both of these fights smaller guys were calling out bigger ones first and they got exactly what they were asking for
                    Dumb @ss Spence called Canelo out, Oscar is only obliging and see if Spence is really serious or not.


                    Do a little research before you post nonsense.

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                    • Originally posted by bori84 View Post
                      LMAO, this is easy!
                      Loma has beaten Gary Russell Jr, Nicholas Walters and Guillermo Rigondeaux - all of which were undefeated and not on the decline like Jacobs when he fought them.
                      Crawford cleaned out the 140lb division and is now making noise at 147.
                      How's Clen-elo beating Jacobs better than all that? I'll wait, you so-called boxing expert... 😂😂😂
                      Guillermo wasn't on the dicline??? LoL, you dumb fucc! Plus he was ALOT smaller!
                      Walters?? Who's Walters?? 🤣
                      Gary Russel is an impressive win but who else??
                      Yes Crawford cleaned out the division but who was in it??
                      Postol? Indongo? Decent fighters but not world class!
                      Let's see Canelo..
                      Lara, Cotto, Triple g, Jacobs...
                      Those 4 alone beats both Crawford and Loma's resumes easily... FACTS! 😊

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