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  • Originally posted by bori84 View Post
    Here's another one that resorts to talking crap.
    The difference is that, KO or no KO, Spence is completely dominating his fights, regardless of who he fights. Clen-elo gets gift decisions and struggles against declining boxers.
    Go ahead... What are you gonna call me now since you obviously can't stick to simply discussing boxing cause others get under your skin when they speak #TheTruth?
    That's cause you dumb fuccs can't speak facts! You fools speak from the hatred you have for Canelo.
    He dominated a smaller Mikey.... So what! That doesn't really impress me!
    I remember he was getting tagged by Brook and it was a very close fight up till the stoppage... You remember that right??
    Ever since the brook fight Spence has fought nothing but B- and C level fighters... So he better dominate them!
    Let him dominate Crawford, Thurman, Porter, or Danny Garcia and then I'll be impressed!
    I like Spence but you hoes got him on the pedestal before he's even done anything to be up there,...
    FACTS!

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    • Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
      Like I said go watch 40 Days they laid out the gameplan and talk about during his sparring session they were counting punches and said we need 100 punches every round. He lost almost all the round until middle of the fight when he switched southpaw around the 7th or 8th round. So he lost rounds southpaw and traditional. He switched to try and confuse canelo and because what he was already doing wasn't working. I agree he fought better later when he had a few spurts later in the fight where he fought closer and stopped trying to move and jab which clearly wasn't working because canelo was too slick for that.

      Canelo is very intelligent and skilled can fight many ways at multiple distances. There is a reason other then Floyd NOBODY lands a lot of shots and definitely not a lot of clean shots on him. And that includes Lara who ran and finished the fight landing just a paltry 100 punches off 28% connecting. Jacobs moved tried to box and only landed 20% of his shots. GGG only landed 30% the first fight and only 26% the second fight. Canelo is very very hard to hit great offensive fighters struggle to hit him let alone consistently cleanly. Spence is not outboxing canelo when fighters faster (again I'm talking footwork) and/or with better jabs couldn't do it. And nope I don't think Spence is more athletic then Canelo. lol Canelo is more slick then Spence. What are you basing him being more athletic on cause it damn sure isn't his fights.
      Well if he was ****** enough to reveal his gameplan on 40 days, no wonder Canelo looked so good. LOL. I saw him switch earlier than that. I didn't watch 40 days so as I watched I couldn't understand what the f-ck the gameplan was.

      Floyd has much faster hands than Canelo, as does Spence. That might allow him to land at a more accurate rate. I agree with you about Canelo being hard to hit but the guys we are discussing all have slower hand speed, except Floyd.

      As for footwork, I think Spence is faster than all but Lara and Floyd, we agree. My point is those are the 2 fights he consensus lost. If Spence footwork is faster than all the other guys except these 2 (which I think so) then he has a solid chance to win.

      If you are correct about the athleticism and footwork, well then Canelo is going to win 9 or 10 rounds easily.

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      • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
        Then how about five years from now?
        ...

        ... I hear that Canelo had (again) problems with his injured knee in his last fight...

        (Canelo started his pro career as a child, tbh...)

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        • HOW ABOUT they Challenge WARd....they can get WARd to come out of retirement for a HUGE FIGHT

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          • Originally posted by BigStomps View Post
            LoL, I just speak FACTS! You hoes speak hate!
            You can hate all you want but you'll see next week ..
            Canelo is gonna take over the #1 spot on the P4P rankings.
            I know it eats at you that a Mexican is the #1 P4P fighter in the world but it's just the way it is,.... 🤗

            Oh and by the way,... Your wife is a hoe too! FACTS! 😂🤣
            You just proved you don't know the meaning of "facts". Facts is Clen-elo getting caught cheating, that's not subjective in any way. Facts is the fact that she's not my wife, yet, but will be someday. 😁
            Everything else being discussed is debatable. I get it, you can't comprehend what I'm saying and have to stick to what you do instead of addressing FACTS. 😁😂
            I don't care who or what race is at #1 P4P but Loma and TC have done a lot more and beat stiffer competition than Clen-elo. Even Mikey has faced, and won, against stiffer competition, with the only blemish being Errol "The Truth" Spence. Oh and btw, I am huge Mikey fan too, and he's Mexican, because guess what? I couldn't care less about race or ethnicity; I base my opinions on boxing skills. If that makes me a hoe, then so be it... "Hoe" now has a new meaning. 👌🏾😁

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            • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
              I surely didn't think he was going to beat Canelo after losing to GGG and beating Derevchenko given they don't have Canelo's footspeed, dexterity, athleticism, agility or balance.

              Spence on the other hand seems to have all these traits which makes it a fascinating matchup IMO.

              If bigdunny1 is correct and Canelo proves to be the better boxer and more athletic than Spence then we could see a complete drubbing akin to Floyd/manny.
              Depends how he chooses to fight. He is losing to Canelo regardless but if he goes into survival mode and runs from Canelo he won't get beat up. Or if he ****s with Canelo he could go out in a stretcher. A lot of these fighters we talking even top elite fighters have shown that once they see canelo's hand speed and counter punching they want no parts of it and either jab their way to a loss or simply run from Canelo to a loss. I do know this Spence has less traits and skills to outbox Canelo then other fighters who have already tried and failed and Canelo keeps getting better and smarter. His only chance is to mix it up which other fighters who have get hurt badly by Canelo or knocked out. Or try to outbox him and look foolish like Jacobs did but at least say well I didn't get knocked out take your paycheck and go home like Mikey did. Hell even pacquio didn't take many chances took his paycheck and went home crying about his shoulder is why he couldn't fight and make more of a effort on Floyd but he didn't get beat up physically by Floyd...he would of if he really got aggressive and tried to win he would of ate big time counters from Floyd and got hurt.

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              • Why is Canelo team begging a welterweight to step up? Only a few year ago de la Hoya said canelo is ambitious and wants to fight at 175..

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                • Originally posted by MDPopescu View Post
                  ...

                  ... I hear that Canelo had (again) problems with his injured knee in his last fight...
                  Yeah that's very true. It appears that his body is slowly beginning to break down. However back to Canelo/Spence; I would rather see the natural maturation of Spence growing into those higher weight classes rather than him just jumping from one weight division to the other because he can. That tends to age fighters more quickly. I don't want to see him ending up like Adrien Broner moving up in weight before the natural maturation process begins because it ended up ultimately costing him his career.

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                  • Originally posted by HURTFEELINGS View Post
                    HOW ABOUT they Challenge WARd....they can get WARd to come out of retirement for a HUGE FIGHT
                    You don't want to watch that!... ... Ward would fight him at 175 only (and with no "rehydration clause", tbh)... Ward would wrestle him into submission, for sure...

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                    • Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
                      Then he don't want the fight. Canelo is a full 160 and the cash cow in boxing pays you more then anyone you will ever fight and you just made Mikey go up 2 weight classes you didn't say ok I will meet you at 140. Saying I would do it but at 154 means I don't want that smoke. So then keep canelo name out your mouth and stay in your lane bullying small 147lbers. In truth he needs to fight Crawford or move up to his proper weight of 154 anyway. I don't even care to see him fight guys like Porter that already lost to Thurman and Brook. But he and anyone with a brain knows he isn't going to beat canelo and if he starts putting up roadblocks it's because he knows it too and doesn't want the fight.
                      Nobody made dumb ass Mikey do that lol.. Mikey had a choice to make: get his ass whooped by Erroll OR get his ass whooped by Lomachenko..

                      he knew getting beat by Erroll wouldn't damage his rep too much

                      but i think it did damage him because he performed like a complete HOE pumping his fist after not doing sht for a whole round.

                      but Erroll didn't make him do sht

                      what Mikey did wasnt brave.. it was strategic to avoid a beatdown from Loma.

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