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  • Originally posted by hitking View Post
    Stop being one of these new aged boxing fans that’s scared to see their favs lose Spence and Canelo are a helluva lot closer in natural size than Roy and Oscar even were. Let Spence dare to be great. And if he gets his ass kicked, so be it. He can go back down to WW where nobody is gonna beat him. Maybe accept Crawford.
    I know you guys are painfully upset with Spence for beating on your boy Mikey Garcia. So now you guys wants some payback for him beating up on a fellow Mexican fighter.

    I'm sorry but Spence may not be as naive as he looks. Unlike Mikey Garcia, he is fully aware of his limitations and for him to jump up two weight classes just to prove that he could get whooped by a much bigger and stronger man doesn't make much sense to him or me

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    • Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
      Ok let's okay play this out how is he going to beat canelo by outboxing him using range and jabs? That's what Jacobs thought and he is a better boxer then Spence taller and longer and has a better jab and is also a switch hitter and he looked foolish missing badly trying to box canelo.

      Is he going to try and **** with Canelo? GGG is bigger, stronger more aggressive and before he fought Canelo as hyped as Spence is now and the best body puncher in boxing. Against Canelo he was shook of those counters and literally refused to throw any body shots and Canelo walked him down broke his face and beat the Mexican Style out his azzz and GGG has maybe the best iron chin in boxing and is a phuking middleweight. If spence takes even 1 of those bombs GGG was eating he is done.

      The fight will play out exactly like Mikey Spence. Mikey also a aggressive fighter...against guys his own size or smaller but fought shook and tried to outbox spence and that's Spence only chance against Canelo except he's not very fast and much better boxers couldn't outbox canelo and spence won't either he will go into survival mode or get KOd if he takes any risks and tries to **** with canelo. Canelo counter punching and boxing skills are too great for Spence. His IQ and defense, slickness alone will confuse Spence.

      Got idiots saying no big deal Spence spars with Charlo at 154... remember about HOW GGG spars with kovalev and light heavyweights? How did that help him against Canelo? lol GGG much bigger puncher couldn't hurt Canelo but Spence who doesn't hit as hard can? Jacobs faster feet better boxing skills better jab couldn't outbox canelo but spence can? lol
      Jacobs isn’t a better boxer than Spence.

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      • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
        I know you guys are painfully upset with Spence for beating on your boy Mikey Garcia. So now you guys wants some payback for him beating up on a fellow Mexican fighter.

        I'm sorry but Spence may not be as naive as he looks. Unlike Mikey Garcia, he is fully aware of his limitations and for him to jump up two weight classes just to prove that he could get whooped by a much bigger and stronger man doesn't make much sense to him or me
        I went to the fight, and rooted for Spence.

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        • Mikey challenged Spence and got beat down, GOLDENBOY wants their SMW Champion to fight a WW Champion, after they wanted their MW Champion to fight a retired WW Champion....How about canelo vs wilder?....nah its a certain group that wants brown on brown crime to evolve.....dont fall for it brown brothers.
          we know who's the ENEMY....

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          • Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
            Jacbos has a great jab he just couldn't land it on Canelo that's the phuking point!

            Laughing at some of the comments all a sudden Spence is floyd or Lara? He doesn't fight like either guy. He has never been slick or defensive wizard or uses a lot of foot movement. He is more a seek and destroy high knock out fighter he has some skills but is his bread and butter. Canelo is more Floyd like then Spence is or has EVER been. FACT if they fought each other the better skilled and slick fighter is Canelo not Spence.

            Jacobs thought he was going to be the better skilled and elusive fighter. He has a way better jab then Spence and is a switch hitter and can move in the ring. He trained to throw over 1000 punches in that fight and dance move, jab and outwork and confuse canelo. But couldn't land or deal with canelo's skills and after the fight said..."he was very hard to hit he's very slick". Jacobs has all the tools and skills to move and box better then Spence and this is what he looked like out there lol

            His switching up was the primary reason he lost rounds. When he went southpaw he didn't throw and got tagged repeatedly. It surely didn't look like he trained to throw that many punches. That or he just abandoned that gameplan.

            Jacobs did his best work when he fought in close and fought conventional rather than southpaw.

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            • Originally posted by MDPopescu View Post
              ... there's never about what "they should" do...

              ... and I can't even see how the PBC and GBP "flag ships" could fight each-other under the current situation, tbh...
              I think that the size differential is just too great. Canelo is speaking about fighting at Light heavyweight for crying out loud while Spence is still just a welterweight. I just don't think that it's even possible for those two to meet; Perhaps six years from now but definitely not at the moment.

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              • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                I don't know that Jacobs is a better boxer than Spence. He definitely isn't faster.

                Spence is faster and more athletic than Canelo. The 2 fights Canelo had the most difficulty-Floyd and Lara-were him against faster, more athletic guys.

                Spence seems to have much more power than both those guys, although his defense isn't anywhere near as good, nor is his footwork.
                Faster on his feet moving around the ring is what I'm talking about. My point is Spence isn't floyd or lara and fights nothing like those guys. If the much longer faster better jabbing Jacobs couldn't outbox canelo Spence for damn sure isn't.



                Yes Spence is stronger then Floyd not sure Lara since Lara is much bigger and dropped and hurt much bigger fighters then Spence. Spence is strong for 147 but we don't even know how that will translate to 154 and and damn sure 160. Mikey Garcia is a massive puncher at 135 at 147 he couldn't hurt Spence and had dramatically less power even at a 140. And Spence is NOT more athletic then Spence. I'll say it again Canelo is more floyd like then Spence is. He is more slick, better defensively and all around skilled.

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                • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                  As does Luis Ortiz but it still didn't stop you guys from insinuating that he was still doping, while currently being enrolled in the VADA's year round Clean Boxing Program too. All because he refused to fight Anthony Joshua. Why did you guys feel that way; It's because just like Canelo Alvarez, he popped dirty before in the past? So it left a lot of you guys su****ious and the same goes for Canelo.

                  Here is Luis Ortiz VADA testing status below:

                  http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/528949
                  Wrong guy man! I've never once said Luis was still doping!
                  If your gonna accuse me of saying things then accuse me of things I said, not what other Canelo fans said!
                  Only Luis knows why he turned the fight down and that's his business.
                  But I never once said he turned it down cause he was still doping.
                  So get your facts straight!

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                  • Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
                    Faster on his feet moving around the ring is what I'm talking about. My point is Spence isn't floyd or lara and fights nothing like those guys. If the much longer faster better jabbing Jacobs couldn't outbox canelo Spence for damn sure isn't.



                    Yes Spence is stronger then Floyd not sure Lara since Lara is much bigger and dropped and hurt much bigger fighters then Spence. Spence is strong for 147 but we don't even know how that will translate to 154 and and damn sure 160. Mikey Garcia is a massive puncher at 135 at 147 he couldn't hurt Spence and had dramatically less power even at a 140. And Spence is NOT more athletic then Spence. I'll say it again Canelo is more floyd like then Spence is. He is more slick, better defensively and all around skilled.
                    I don't agree with you that Jacobs is a better boxer than Spence. I don't agree he is faster on his feet than Spence, He definitely doesn't have faster hands.

                    I agree Spence doesn't box and move like Floyd or Lara. I do think Spence is more athletic than canelo. canelo looked athletic and Jacobs, Fielding and GGG but not Floyd or Lara since they are smaller and faster.

                    Canelo's defense was outstanding IMO against Jacobs at times. No question.

                    When talking about Spence's power, I wasn't suggesting he would knock Canelo out.

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                    • Mikey was BEGGING for Spence to whoop his ass..big difference. all Spence said is its possible. not quite begging.

                      if 147 wasnt loaded this would be a good move. but Spence has endless big names at welter. Theres no need

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