Comments Thread For: Ortiz, Trainer Angered Over Promoter's Handling of Joshua Talks

[LacedUp]

No, I never defended it. I just said that it wasn't going to happen. I said he should have taken the offer. $5mil was more than reasonable.

Yeah you're right, I just checked posts. I confused you.

My apologies.

[nixxter]

Jimenez basically says he's been told by Dade.

He knew very well what the offers were and he called them lowball and gimmick, now he's singing a different tune.

[kafkod]

Both Jay Jimenez (manager) and Jorge Carmenate (promoter) said the offers were lowball and were declined and it was all BS/games/gimmick.

Jimenez on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/p/Bwm1l3-lZY4/

Carmenate on BoxingScene - https://www.boxingscene.com/team-lui...joshua--138278

That post on instagram was from the promoter, not the manager. from what I've been hearing. That's the thing with social media accounts, more than one person may have access to post on them..

[LacedUp]

He knew very well what the offers were and he called them lowball and gimmick, now he's singing a different tune.

Anyone in their right mind would thank their lucky stars if AJ blessed them with that offer. Especially if you're a 47-year olds manager

[EasternEuroFan]

Personally, I believe he is trying to save face. Team Ortiz never had any intentions of taking that offer from Eddie Hearn and DAZN. So I don't believe him.

It's a deflection from the fact Ortiz won't fight at short notice because he won't beat the VADA tests. He's been caught 3 times before now.

Even if it's not that, they're saving face for ducking the fight because Hearn said he's going to expose their lies. So the promoter is going to take the blame to make it seem like Ortiz didn't duck or isn't dirty.

[champion4ever]

Yeah you're right, I just checked posts. I confused you.

My apologies.

No problem mate, I respect you. We good

[lolasif]

That post on instagram was from the promoter, not the manager. from what I've been hearing. That's the thing with social media accounts, more than one person may have access to post on them..

The instagram post was from Jay Jimenez, the manager. He said it was him on thaboxingvoice.

[kafkod]

The instagram post was from Jay Jimenez, the manager. He said it was him on thaboxingvoice.

Ok. Did he say why he changed his mind on what he posted there?

[champion4ever]

It's a deflection from the fact Ortiz won't fight at short notice because he won't beat the VADA tests. He's been caught 3 times before now.

Even if it's not that, they're saving face for ducking the fight because Hearn said he's going to expose their lies. So the promoter is going to take the blame to make it seem like Ortiz didn't duck or isn't dirty.

We are being told they had been offered the Deontay Wilder rematch; Which is why his team had turned down the fight. Who knows? It probably has something to do with Al Haymon's contractual commitment to Showtime.

In any case, as far as him popping dirty is concerned; Possibly but unlikely because Luis Ortiz is currently enrolled in the year round VADA clean boxing program. Here's his status below:

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/528949

[lolasif]

Ok. Did he say why he changed his mind on what he posted there?

He's basically claiming that Ortiz's promoter told him that Hearn was low balling, but didn't actually tell him the amount offered. He posted out of frustration, attacking Hearn. Since then he found out what was offered.