Comments Thread For: Espinoza: Wilder Would Be Criticized Less If People Knew Purse

[kafkod]

Dazn would be paying both guys and Hearn was on record saying skipper can be broker to get deal done, knowing how much more they paying the other guy would have be part of talks because that’s letting you know how much they think the fight is worth and wilder wants 50/50 or as close to 50/50 he can get especially if can’t make backend money like Joshua can with his sky sports ppv he gets share of

All irrelevant. If they wanted to talk about AJ's money they shouldn't have excluded AJ and his representative from the meeting.

John Skipper is no fool. He knows how much Wilder is worth and he made him a great offer, many times more than he has earned in all 40 fights of his career so far combined, and many times more than he can earn against anybody, anywhere else.

Only a scared man or a brainwashed idiot would turn down an offer like that because he wasn't told how much somebody else was getting.

Personally, I think it's a bit of both with Wilder. He's scared of getting KTFO by AJ and his team are using his fear to manipulate him into staying "loyal" to them.

[bigdunny1]

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And what does any of this have to do with Espnioza said or my post? Wilder has fought numerous times outside of Showtime and even outside of the CBS subsidiary bubble if you try and merge those together. First you trying to lump PBC networks which is not what Espinoza said now trying to lump Showtime and CBS when he didn't say CBS and their subsidiary. lol I'll say it again Wilder has proven he will fight where Haymon tells him and has multiple times fought outside of Showtime. He has no loyalty to Showtime he has loyalty to Haymon.

[bigdunny1]

Has Showtime never been linked to Al Haymon? Has at any point in the life of the PBC, has Showtime not been a part? I would say that Haymon is loyal to Showtime wouldn't you? So being loyal to Showtime is synonymous with being loyal to Haymon! I don't see a difference? Haymon and Showtime built Wilder together, and they're staying together!

If Haymon was loyal to Showtime then Mikey/Spence would of landed on Showtime PPV not FOX PPV. Stop this you sound ****** and putting words in Espinoza mouth that he didn't say. He said Wilder is loyal to Showtime that's bs. Wilder has fought like 4 or 5 times in recent years on networks OUTSIDE of Showtime. He's fought on FOX, NBC, CBS and whoever else Haymon tells him too. If Wilder was loyal to Showtime then he would sign a contract to fight exclusively with Showtime yet he only has a contract with Haymon that's who he is loyal to and he will fight outside of Showtime whenever Haymon tells him too.

[Boksfan]

Shut up weasel Espinoza you lying scumbag!

[kafkod]

TELL US WHAT IT IS THEN and then we can all shut up.

Showtime are not competing with DAZN. If they were competing with DAZN we would all know EXACTLY what Wilder was getting paid. Dont try taking us for a ride Espinoza you little greasy weasel.

Exactly. This a well known conman's trick being played by Espinoza ... if you want to take mug for a ride, tell him only what he wants to hear, and nothing else.

Espinoza the conman: "If you knew how much we were paying Wilder, you wouldn't criticise him."

Wilder fanboy mugs: "Phew ... what a relief! We thought our hero might be ducking! Thanks for clearing that up for us Steve!"

[hitking]

What we need is AJ to sit in the front row at the Breazeale fight and try to storm the ring afterwards. All this jostling by the money men is getting painful.

Wasn’t Wilder supposed to be apart of the TV telecast for one of AJ’s fights? And when Wilder said he would challenge AJ in the ring afterward, Team AJ threatened to get a restraining order to prevent it?

[hitking]

They know Wilder is just a Kp waiting to happen. Fury rocked him, imagine someone with a bit of power.

And I bet my house that Fury Ko's him if there is a rematch and then that golden goose is toasted.

Not too many guys out there hit much harder than Ortiz, who caught Wilder, and hurt him. Wilder recovered and stopped him. So I guess we don’t have to imagine what’ll happen against someone with a little power.

[guyver8]

Exactly. This a well known conman's trick being played by Espinoza ... if you want to take mug for a ride, tell him only what he wants to hear, and nothing else.

Espinoza the conman: "If you knew how much we were paying Wilder, you wouldn't criticise him."

Wilder fanboy mugs: "Phew ... what a relief! We thought our hero might be ducking! Thanks for clearing that up for us Steve!"

Yes, its a trick Espinoza used as recently as a few weeks ago in the twitter argument with Hearn. The one where he claimed to have the $50m contract, but refused to show it when pushed because (insert excuse).

[hitking]

Yeah, but the point of the article is that had the money been there, Wilder would have taken the multi-fight deal. There is no way Wilder would have turned down a guaranteed 120 mil for four fights . That's 30 mil a fight and he barely got 10 mil for Fury. That DANZ crap is just crap .

I’m a hardcore fight fan. And to date, there hasn’t been a single fight on DAZN that has made me break down and subscribe. Same goes for ESPN+. I probably won’t subscribe to DAZN until Canelo-Jacobs. They’ve already doubled their subscription price. And I don’t think they’ve been around a full year. They’re not doing that because money is rolling in. They’re handing out some huge “guarantees” that really don’t even make sense. It’s something very suspect about the entire outfit. So I don’t have a problem with anybody not wanting to sign a long term contract with them.

[N/A]

Showtime are not usually shy about how much they pay fighters on their network. What's different now?

Other than the Mayweather deal, which focused on money since his entire persona was "Money Mayweather," when does Showtime really talk about how much they're paying fighters? All they've said is that filed purses are bogus and the fighters make a lot more than reported, but they've never said how much.