Comments Thread For: Espinoza: Wilder Would Be Criticized Less If People Knew Purse

[Scipio2009]

No, but they must come up with a better offer than DAZN, which they haven't done.

Hearn has made it clear that AJ isn't tied to DAZN and will fight Wilder on whichever US network offers the most money for it.

$50m against 50% was in hand for Joshua, and he didn't want to pursue it; shill about "I want to deliver for the UK fan", but whatever.

Joshua is fighting Miller for $30m (likely plus the tickets sold and what he can draw on Sky Box Office at 3am).

Since he's said that the money didn't matter before, what about $50m against 50% of the proceeds? Its clear that the location of the fight is no longer a problem, DAZN is paying $30m and this is more, and the fight is bigger now then when Wilder's camp was already willing to front $50m.

You're inconsistent dude

[Granath]

Yet more evidence that what I've been saying all along is true. Right or wrong, Wilder is betting on himself.

Wilder is getting close to $20M from SHO. I don't care what the haters say, this has been true all along. He was getting $12.5M before the DAZN negotiations so it only got better from there.

He's likely banking on earning $120M+ from his next three fights after that - the big fight against AJ, the rematch after he wins (his opinion, not mine) and then probably Fury again. Why take $120M for 4 when you can earn more in just 3 fights?

People here continually underestimate the appeal of two undefeated HW champs with belts fighting at the same time. Those fights attract casuals and are social events in ways that fights at lower weight classes almost never are. He's banking on beating AJ and becoming a superstar, which he would be if he pulls it off. He probably believes - and he may be right - that he'd be a box office draw like Tyson or Floyd at that point. Why take $120M when you're potentially leaving $25M or $50M on the table if you think you are going to win?

IF he wins - big if, he'd probably look to stage a fight against AJ and eyeball a possible rematch. Maybe he can lure Wlad out of retirement and/or rematch Fury. Those are 4 HUGE fights that would be worth well over $120M. Again, if he wins. It's awfully risky. If he loses this all goes down the tubes but Wilder strikes me as the kind of guy (fool) who only believes in upside.

[Manlikefemi]

If you think its a ****ty product, then you won't care about DAZNs monthly price increase as you were never interested. If you only buy the Canelo fight, you are buying it for $20, rather than the usual $75 PPV price. Sill a significant saving.

And if you do enjoy the product, you're getting a discount on annual fees.

Its still Win/Win for the most part.

Are you from the UK by any chance ?
Been watching too many Hearn IFL Interviews have we...

[hitking]

This thread represents everything that’s wrong with boxing today. You clearly have the three top heavyweights in the world avoiding each other. But instead of calling them on their bull****, we pick sides and turn into lawyers for our favorites. You would have thought you idiots would have learned when Floyd and Manny tap danced around each other five years. They made a ****load of money fighting opponents nobody wanted to see them fight. And finally, when you idiots had had enough and stopped watching them, they were forced to fight each other. Wilder, AJ, and Fury are gonna do the same thing until they can no longer get big paydays without each other. Are y’all clowns really up for another half decade of arguing and angling for your favs in boards like this? And supporting bull**** fights like they all have scheduled next? Cause you’d have to be pure ****ing ******ed to wanna relive that.

[N/A]

I'm making things up!

Says the idiot who just posted this when I asked him why he welshed on his account bet with Robbie Barret:

Yes, you're making things up. Which you don't even deny now as we both know you have no way of knowing what Wilder makes.

As for hiring an investigator, it's not really a big deal if you have the financial means. I really don't want to get into all of that kind of stuff as of course you'll insist I'm lying.

But I did confirm my identity to the boxingscene admin as well as the user "Billeau2." So they're both now aware of the very wealthy and powerful family I come from. It's really no big deal to hire a PI.

[Manlikefemi]

Wilder fights in May, Joshua fights in June, and then things get interesting.

This is spitting into the wind, but what's to stop Stephen Espinoza and Adam Smith (unlike Eddie's spin, Sky Sports actually does have Joshua's TV contract) talking, agreeing to the US/UK TV package, and presenting that to both camps for a Fall 2019 fight (camps would still need to agree on a split, but work the US/UK TV agreed to and MGM Resorts likely trumping any bid, you've settled the main issues)?

It's not on Wilder to help Eddie Hearn build up his side business (which likely sees his deal voided soon anyway, with Oscar taking lead of the US DAZN effort since Hearn couldn't deliver on what he promised).

The fight will get made once Al Haymon and Eddie Hearn make contact with eachother. Until then, you’ll get smokescreens. Haymon would want Showtime PPV to get the US TV Rights and Hearn would want DAZN to get the US TV Rights.

This is the main problem

[Scipio2009]

Funny how we all know Mayweather’s multimillion dollar deals with showtime. But with Wilder it’s “Loyalty”....

Floyd signed over the back-end of his career; from the Baldomir PPV through the Cotto PPV, if impression is reality, Floyd fought that entire run on an event to event basis.

A 6-year run, lol

Jail time came, Floyd did his time, and basically signed over the next 30 months of his career to Showtime/CBS for 6 fights at the take 1m PPV buys per fight for the 6 owed fights, with upside coming in at some point.

Wilder is basically starting his run now

[sicko]

It is really none of our damn Business! If I'm Wilder or any fighter currently, it would be wise to have your promoter list your Purse Lower than what it really is! Don't end up in debt with the IRS just to brag about your fight purse

So if I'm Wilder "Yeah I'm Only Getting 3-4 Million Per Fight Just Like The Internet Trolls Love To Say"

[guyver8]

Are you from the UK by any chance ?
Been watching too many Hearn IFL Interviews have we...

Either refute the points or accept your idiocy. Don't try derailment tactics.

[Scipio2009]

This not true.

Skipper asked for a face to face meeting with Wilder's team, rather sending the offers via email, because he wanted them to be able to discuss alternatives, including one-off fights on DAZN, if they didn't want a multi-fight deal.

They didn't want to discuss any alternatives and simply turned down the 2 offers on the table and ended the meeting because Skipper wouldn't talk to them about AJ's financials.

Source on your "Skipper wanted a face-to-face to talk through a one-off fight" nonsense?

Deontay Wilder will fight Dominic Breazeale on May 18th, at Barclays Center on Showtime.

After settling his mandatory, Deontay Wilder now has until next May to take whatever fights he wants.