Comments Thread For: Espinoza: Wilder Would Be Criticized Less If People Knew Purse

[hitking]

DAZN has actually gone down in price. It has only gone up for those people who like to try use it as some sort of cheap PPV platform which is not what it is trying to be.

It’s gone down if you subscribe yearly. They’re basically trying to force people to subscribe to a ****ty product.

[SUBZER0ED]

This is so transparent. Espinoza is full of it, saying that Wilder is making a comparable amount with Showtime to fight Breazeale to what he was offered by DAZN. To put things into perspective, DAZN offered him $120 million for four fights. FOUR. Hearn signed a huge deal with DAZN and apparently has deep enough pockets to fund this proposal. Showtime is going to air the fight in a regular, non-PPV event. Every time Floyd fought on Showtime for a $30+ million purse, it was on PPV to generate the funds. How are they going to pay Wilder that amount from a regular boxing event?

[guyver8]

If Haymon was loyal to Showtime then Mikey/Spence would of landed on Showtime PPV not FOX PPV. Stop this you sound ****** and putting words in Espinoza mouth that he didn't say. He said Wilder is loyal to Showtime that's bs. Wilder has fought like 4 or 5 times in recent years on networks OUTSIDE of Showtime. He's fought on FOX, NBC, CBS and whoever else Haymon tells him too. If Wilder was loyal to Showtime then he would sign a contract to fight exclusively with Showtime yet he only has a contract with Haymon that's who he is loyal to and he will fight outside of Showtime whenever Haymon tells him too.

Wilder is 100% loyal to Al Haymon, which in turn makes him loyal to whatever network Al Haymon is affiliated with at the time.

[rickJen]

He's criticized because being B-side he's supposed to make the negotiations smooth and not behave like he beat prime Klitschko.
He's basically a nobody without being associated with UK fighters.
He beat a nobody like Ortiz, who else?

[guyver8]

It’s gone down if you subscribe yearly. They’re basically trying to force people to subscribe to a ****ty product.

If you think its a ****ty product, then you won't care about DAZNs monthly price increase as you were never interested. If you only buy the Canelo fight, you are buying it for $20, rather than the usual $75 PPV price. Sill a significant saving.

And if you do enjoy the product, you're getting a discount on annual fees.

Its still Win/Win for the most part.

[kafkod]

Yes, its a trick Espinoza used as recently as a few weeks ago in the twitter argument with Hearn. The one where he claimed to have the $50m contract, but refused to show it when pushed because (insert excuse).

Yeah, I read that exchange. Espinoza got owned by Hearn

Reason being that he was obviously lying and Hearn was telling the truth.

[elfag]

lmao "our offer was a lot of money too, "comparable" to dazn's $30 million but we wont say what it was because we know its really way less"

[Scipio2009]

Hes criticisised because hes spent months and months calling joshua a coward and then when he offers 100 mill wilder turns it down and start talking about marinating and how big fights take time. He looks like a twat now.

Wilder fights in May, Joshua fights in June, and then things get interesting.

This is spitting into the wind, but what's to stop Stephen Espinoza and Adam Smith (unlike Eddie's spin, Sky Sports actually does have Joshua's TV contract) talking, agreeing to the US/UK TV package, and presenting that to both camps for a Fall 2019 fight (camps would still need to agree on a split, but work the US/UK TV agreed to and MGM Resorts likely trumping any bid, you've settled the main issues)?

It's not on Wilder to help Eddie Hearn build up his side business (which likely sees his deal voided soon anyway, with Oscar taking lead of the US DAZN effort since Hearn couldn't deliver on what he promised).

[Scipio2009]

“We’re not going to publicize all of the financial arrangements, like other have seen fit to do,” Espinoza said. “Now, if we did, I think he’d probably receive less criticism. But his financial arrangements are his business, and his business alone."

Yet he turned down $100million from DAZN because they wouldn't tell him about AJ's financial arrangements!

Joshua isn't signed to DAZN, and the offer went from Wilder's camp fronting Joshua the $50m that he asked for (guessing at the money that it seemed set to do, $50m to Joshua/$20m-$25m to Wilder wouldn't have been crazy to guess) to DAZN going $40m/$40m on two Joshua fights.

The Canelo deal didn't move the needle the way that they'd hoped, and Anthony Joshua has yet to sign with DAZN.

Who's to say that DAZN wouldn't offer Anthony Joshua $70m for the one fight, and then offer Joshua $50m to try again?

Fair is fair

[kafkod]

You have no way of knowing what Wilder has earned though. So you're just making things up.

I'm making things up!

Says the idiot who just posted this when I asked him why he welshed on his account bet with Robbie Barret:

Yes I did and I hired a private investigator to find his real identity so I could sue him. The investigator discovered he's a minor and I wouldn't be able to sue him. So I accepted his offer to cancel the bet.