Comments Thread For: Espinoza: Wilder Would Be Criticized Less If People Knew Purse

[bigdunny1]

SHO/FOX/CBS all under the same umbrella!

No they are not. And Espinoza didn't say he was loyal to PBC and their affiliates he said he was loyal to Showtime. Wilder is loyal to Haymon and fights where Haymon tells him too has NOTHING to do with any loyalty to Showtime.

[Tyistall]

Man, this amount of Bull**** is rarely seen hahaha. I've actually never seen someone spin it this far though. "If you only knew how much Wilder made" and "we won't release the amount" hahahaha. That's the dumbest **** I've read on here. And Wilder's ******ed fans are actually eating it up?????? Man, ya'll are a special kind of ******

[Ake-Dawg]

Boxing writers and leaked numbers? I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about finance, Forbes magazine and the Wall Street Journal. There is always a bottom line and someone has access to it. In fact, someone printed it out on an accounting form.

Finally, and I have to go for the day, but why wouldn't Showtime release the numbers to Forbes and the WSJ for publicity? You know what? They did.

Actually, the author did not state that the numbers were derived from Showtime. As a matter of fact here is the quote "According to various media reports, the Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury showdown compelled between 300,000-325,000 people to buy the fight on PPV".

Those other guys are telling you that those numbers that the forbes author got from "media reports" are US ppv numbers and don't reflect revenue garnered from broadcast rights purchased by other international networks.

[phishfan]

What’s interesting here is Espinoza basically admits twice that Deontay is gonna make less fighting Breazeale on showtime. He is simply saying “yes he’s making less on showtime BUT not as much as you think”

[kafkod]

Not the same thing at all.

One thing is the head of a network not announcing PUBLICLY the terms of a fighter's deal.

The other is during PRIVATE FACE TO FACE NEGOTIATIONS, not knowing what the total pot of money is and not knowing what the other fighter is getting paid.

Two very different things.

Showtime are not usually shy about how much they pay fighters on their network. What's different now?

Re the bolded: Wilder's team excluded Eddie Hearn from that meeting. Hearn is AJ's promoter and representative at DAZN. If Wilder wanted to discuss AJ's money as well as his own, he shouldn't have excluded Hearn from the meeting.

This was a meeting to discuss a financial deal between Wilder and DAZN, by-passing Hearn. AJ's money shouldn't even have been brought up.

[SchoolTheseCats]

NO, it was world wide. They barley broke 200 K in the U.S.




https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkat.../#e04938912ca8

You didn’t read own article you posted I take? Says in it did 325k ppv sells at 74.99 and bt was streamer for uk fans sold it at 19.99

[Nusky]

Most weirdos on this site are glad this article came about so they can distract away from their favorite fighter ducking Wilder.

Go on peasants, continue to argue about more **** that shouldn't matter to the fans: a fighters money.

[SchoolTheseCats]

NO, it was world wide. They barley broke 200 K in the U.S.




https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkat.../#e04938912ca8

You didn’t read own article you posted I take? Says in it did 325k ppv sells at 74.99 and bt was streamer for uk fans sold it at 19.85... No where in article it says fight barely did 200k in us ppv sells or total worldwide was 325k lol when some countries don’t even offer ppv they pay a fee to broadcast

[Redgloveman]

Disclose the purse then Stephen.

You’re basically in the PR business, so if you can dispel all this criticism by simply disclosing the purse, simply disclose the purse.

You can’t expect people to be dumb enough to buy this

[SchoolTheseCats]

Actually, the author did not state that the numbers were derived from Showtime. As a matter of fact here is the quote "According to various media reports, the Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury showdown compelled between 300,000-325,000 people to buy the fight on PPV".

Those other guys are telling you that those numbers that the forbes author got from "media reports" are US ppv numbers and don't reflect revenue garnered from broadcast rights purchased by other international networks.

I don’t think he understand us ppv are separate from international ppv/right fee sells, most other countries don’t even have ppv or cable subscriptions the local channels buys the rights to broadcast