Comments Thread For: Espinoza: Wilder Would Be Criticized Less If People Knew Purse

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Disclose the purse then Stephen.

You’re basically in the PR business, so if you can dispel all this criticism by simply disclosing the purse, simply disclose the purse.

No, Hearn is in the PR business. PBC has done just fine ignoring the internet trolls and just continuing with their plan.

DAZN tried to snatch all of PBC's stars and failed over and over and over. In every instance, PBC was already paying way more than Hearn thought.

Haymon's business model clearly revolves around secrecy. He's not going to want Espinoza to disclose anything.

Do you want the IRS to know exactly what you made if they don't have to? Do you want the sanctioning bodies to know exactly what you made when you have to pay them a percentage of whatever you claim you made?

There's a reason Haymon does things the way he does them. It protects the fighters.

Hearn is a promoter. He has no legal obligation to protect the fighters' money. So if he wants to run his mouth or brag about numbers, that's his right. Haymon doesn't roll that way.

[DaNeutral.]

I’m a hardcore fight fan. And to date, there hasn’t been a single fight on DAZN that has made me break down and subscribe. Same goes for ESPN+. I probably won’t subscribe to DAZN until Canelo-Jacobs. They’ve already doubled their subscription price. And I don’t think they’ve been around a full year. They’re not doing that because money is rolling in. They’re handing out some huge “guarantees” that really don’t even make sense. It’s something very suspect about the entire outfit. So I don’t have a problem with anybody not wanting to sign a long term contract with them.

DAZN has actually gone down in price. It has only gone up for those people who like to try use it as some sort of cheap PPV platform which is not what it is trying to be.

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he made him a great offer, many times more than he has earned in all 40 fights of his career so far combined

You have no way of knowing what Wilder has earned though. So you're just making things up.

[DaNeutral.]

No, Hearn is in the PR business. PBC has done just fine ignoring the internet trolls and just continuing with their plan.

DAZN tried to snatch all of PBC's stars and failed over and over and over. In every instance, PBC was already paying way more than Hearn thought.

Haymon's business model clearly revolves around secrecy. He's not going to want Espinoza to disclose anything.

Do you want the IRS to know exactly what you made if they don't have to? Do you want the sanctioning bodies to know exactly what you made when you have to pay them a percentage of whatever you claim you made?

There's a reason Haymon does things the way he does them. It protects the fighters.

Hearn is a promoter. He has no legal obligation to protect the fighters' money. So if he wants to run his mouth or brag about numbers, that's his right. Haymon doesn't roll that way.

Those people around Haymon who does his talking for him sure know how to talk about other peoples money. But lets be real here, this is how the PBC works, If the money is good and worth bragging about they will brag about it. If the money is not good and isnt a good look then they choose to not disclose it.

[DaNeutral.]

You have no way of knowing what Wilder has earned though. So you're just making things up.

Are you saying he is wrong? Or that he just doesnt know how much Wilder has earned? I dont know how much exactly Wilder has earned in his career from purses but i can get close, we all have a good idea.

But i can say for certain the DAZN offer is for more money than Wilder has earnt in his career.

[SugarRaRobinson]

No, Hearn is in the PR business. PBC has done just fine ignoring the internet trolls and just continuing with their plan.

DAZN tried to snatch all of PBC's stars and failed over and over and over. In every instance, PBC was already paying way more than Hearn thought.

Haymon's business model clearly revolves around secrecy. He's not going to want Espinoza to disclose anything.

Do you want the IRS to know exactly what you made if they don't have to? Do you want the sanctioning bodies to know exactly what you made when you have to pay them a percentage of whatever you claim you made?

There's a reason Haymon does things the way he does them. It protects the fighters.

Hearn is a promoter. He has no legal obligation to protect the fighters' money. So if he wants to run his mouth or brag about numbers, that's his right. Haymon doesn't roll that way.

^^ Erroneous chatter.

Haymon is a Harvard Alum, more than likely scull and bones, so therefore most likely in the tax-exempt club like many of the others.

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Those people around Haymon who does his talking for him sure know how to talk about other peoples money. But lets be real here, this is how the PBC works, If the money is good and worth bragging about they will brag about it. If the money is not good and isnt a good look then they choose to not disclose it.

PBC has over 120 million a year guaranteed from Showtime and Fox, plus PPV fights that don't come out of that budget. Do the math on what the average license fee is for a Fox or Showtime card and you'll realize quickly these guys are being paid very very well.

PBC fighters used to brag about second checks, and sometimes still do, but generally Haymon tells them to shut the **** up.

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Are you saying he is wrong? Or that he just doesnt know how much Wilder has earned? I dont know how much exactly Wilder has earned in his career from purses but i can get close, we all have a good idea.

No, you can't get close. No, you don't have a good idea. You have no way of knowing. Whether he made 8 million in his last fight or 16 million, whether he's making 7 million in his next fight or 14 million, you have no way of knowing. Neither do I. This is why it's so ****** to have a bunch of fans arguing about numbers when they don't have any access to the numbers.

[Ake-Dawg]

It’s not really about the money.

It’s about Wilder TURNING DOWN the money

i.e. it’s about Wilder ducking the Joshua fight which most people now agree that he did

Why say this when you don't know this to be true. There is a gaggle of AJ fans and Wilder haters that have said this but the whole "most people" is quite overblown. There are even some sensible Joshua fans who say, sure he turned down this deal but it doesn't preclude them fighting after their interim fights. Again, this was a "network/broadcast" contract and not a fighter to fighter offer.

[bigdunny1]

Those people around Haymon who does his talking for him sure know how to talk about other peoples money. But lets be real here, this is how the PBC works, If the money is good and worth bragging about they will brag about it. If the money is not good and isnt a good look then they choose to not disclose it.

BINGO!!!! Espinsoza saying he knows if they did he would be criticized less so they why aren't they doing it? All these people around Wilder who have bragged about money in the past all a sudden are mum and they just letting Wilder get killed for turning down more money for this same fight on DAZN. But he is secretly making more they just don't want to disclose it. phuk out of here nobody is dumb enough to buy that.

This is up there with classic "I got a girlfriend you just never seen her because she lives out of town"

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